Tyson vs Frazier?

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  • Miburo
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    #11
    Hard fight to predict, both would go right at each other. I think it can be said that Tyson had the better chin and power. I would say either Tyson stops Frazier within 5-6 rounds or loses a decision.

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    • Obama
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      #12
      Originally posted by poet682006
      Considering that in the early '90s Frazier penned an article for Ring Magazine describing exactly why he would BEAT Tyson I find that once again you're speaking of that which you are clueless.

      Poet
      He flip flopped after Tyson fell off. As did most people. The rational ones came back around after they realized Tyson simply wasn't the same fighter after he got rid of Rooney.

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      • them_apples
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        #13
        I'd give Frazier a good shot, I don't think Frazier would actually hurt Mike, because they would both be ducking and slipping so much, much like the Mathis Jr fight.

        I'd give it to Tyson by UD or possible KO. Frazier always got up even from the bigger punches and Tysons 6 round fade is overrated, he could go the distance.

        If it did go the distance Frazier would probably take the last few rounds based on activity, but it wouldn't be enough IMO for him to win. If he get's put down there is also a big chance of Tyson finishing him since he's quite good at that.

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        • sonnyboyx2
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          #14
          Originally posted by princemanspoper
          The fight would never have taken place,frazier would have avoided Tyson just like he avoided every other big puncher of his era,fraziers chin simply could not withstand real heavyweight power and you could bet his chin would never have tested that kind of explosive power that tyson possessed either,Tyson would blitz him out inside of four rounds
          since when did Frazier have a weak chin?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Obama
            Tyson within 3. Tyson is just too powerful, and Frazier didn't have a back up game plan for guys that punched like trucks and could take his punches. You could site Jerry Quarry, but Tyson is sooooooo much better than Quarry, and would be harder to hit clean.
            so his 2 wins over Oscar Bonavena who could punch like a truck and take anyones punches was without a game plan?

            Bonavena was an incredible rugged, tough two fisted brawler who would be champion if fighting today.. (sorry my mistake, Valuev and Co are to tall and big for him)

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            • Sugarj
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              #16
              Bonavena was alright, he would have a good chance againt Valuev and a punchers chance against Wlad. I think Vitali would beat him though.

              Back on topic, I do favour Tyson over Frazier, but like Mickey.....only the peak Tyson of the mid to late 80s. I just feel that Tyson, whilst sharing similar physical dimensions to Joe was simply much faster and had a more versatile range of punches. Joe's right was sorely underused and uppercuts were rare.

              I forget who said it but I too think that Tyson's distance stamina wasn't at all bad in the 80s, I think that Tyson either wins a tough decision or has a good chance to stop Frazier also, Tyson's uppercut could be key.

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                #17
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                so his 2 wins over Oscar Bonavena who could punch like a truck and take anyones punches was without a game plan?

                Bonavena was an incredible rugged, tough two fisted brawler who would be champion if fighting today.. (sorry my mistake, Valuev and Co are to tall and big for him)
                Keep in mind, Bonavena beat Frazier's ass in the first fight. In modern scoring Frazier loses that fight. Not to mention Bonavena is even far worse than Quarry. Tyson is fathoms beyond Ringo.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #18
                  Frazier has the heart and stamina to withstand Tyson early and had great head movement. He would get his ass kicked for the first 5 rounds and then just punish Tyson brutally on route to a 11th or 12th round KO or TKO.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                    since when did Frazier have a weak chin?
                    Anytime he fought a legitimate heavyweight puncher

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                    • GJC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                      since when did Frazier have a weak chin?
                      Think this fallacy is from people who have only ever seen him against Foreman.
                      People seem to forget only 2 men ever beat him, both would appear in most peoples top 10 atg Heavys so he can't have been that bad.

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