Who's prime is more overrated ?

[ironalex]

Yeah, you get into cat fights with your boyfriend over what drag to wear to the prom.....Junior.



Sorry Junior, you just proved (yet again) your abject ignorance. Tyson's hands weren't in the same league as Ali's in terms of speed and probably weren't any faster than Patterson's if that.




Never met the convicted felon. Nor do I collect autographs and even if I did it certainly wouldn't be those of dumb jocks.

Personally, I'm not even sure why I'm giving you the time of day since you're obviously a dumb, ignorant kid who's too ****** to figure things out. What's the matter? Mommy and Daddy smack ya cuz they didn't want you carrying that pink purse to school?

Poet

wow you clearly are one of these guys who dont get out much.

I find it ironic you are mocking my age yet you are doing the childish humour technique of "someone calls you a **** joke"...you have to do the **** joke back too....orginial...old man.

YOU clearly dont kno your boxing...i agree with patterson, but Alis speed was more agility and straight punches, Tyson threw hayemakers, every punch with bad intentions fast...ali through graceful straights. Joe louis DEFINTLY did not have the same speed as Tyson....and if you want to criticise Tyson all the time, how about i criticise your beloved Joe louis...who had very slow foot movement, little headmovement, and was getting beaten up by a blown up LH Billy Conn, Conn felt so confident he even opted to trade with Louis...however ****** his tactics were, he still had the confidence in his ability and the lack in Louis'....hmmm lets compare this with a great light heavyweight who tyson fought....who was also proven at heavyweight.....ohhhh i know!...Michael Spinks....what was the result again? was it 1 or 2 minutes he got koed?

[ironalex]

nah not really i dont see how this explains why you think roy jones is more over rated.

a off spin conversation between the poet and i, read the posts man.

[Poet682006]

wow you clearly are one of these guys who dont get out much.

Fine comment from someone who still needs Mommy's permission to be out after 9.

I find it ironic you are mocking my age yet you are doing the childish humour technique of "someone calls you a **** joke"...you have to do the **** joke back too....orginial...old man.

Since most nuthuggers spend half their time having ****-****** fantasies about their hero it's appropriate.

YOU clearly dont kno your boxing...i agree with patterson, but Alis speed was more agility and straight punches, Tyson threw hayemakers, every punch with bad intentions fast...ali through graceful straights.

I've been watching boxing since LONG before you were born Junior and I know more about the subject than you're ever likely to. Just about every boxing expert rate Ali as the fastest Heavyweight they've ever seen and that's foot speed as well as hand speed. Tyson doesn't come close. Saying Tyson threw haymakers is a point against Tyson as straight punches beat looping punches everyday of the week.

Joe louis DEFINTLY did not have the same speed as Tyson....and if you want to criticise Tyson all the time, how about i criticise your beloved Joe louis...who had very slow foot movement, little headmovement

I do believe we were talking about HAND speed.....I know it's hard pre-pubescent types to stay on focus with your gerbil like attention spans but please at least TRY to stay on focus?

and was getting beaten up by a blown up LH Billy Conn, Conn felt so confident he even opted to trade with Louis...however ****** his tactics were, he still had the confidence in his ability and the lack in Louis'....hmmm lets compare this with a great light heavyweight who tyson fought....who was also proven at heavyweight.....ohhhh i know!...Michael Spinks....what was the result again? was it 1 or 2 minutes he got koed

The difference? Spinks was wetting his pants while he was climbing in the ring and looking for a soft spot to lay down while they were playing the National Anthem. Conn, on the other hand, wasn't afraid of anybody. Don't slobber praise all over Leg-Iron Mike because Spinks was a scared little rabbit.

Poet

[ironalex]

Fine comment from someone who still needs Mommy's permission to be out after 9.



Since most nuthuggers spend half their time having ****-****** fantasies about their hero it's appropriate.



I've been watching boxing since LONG before you were born Junior and I know more about the subject than you're ever likely to. Just about every boxing expert rate Ali as the fastest Heavyweight they've ever seen and that's foot speed as well as hand speed. Tyson doesn't come close. Saying Tyson threw haymakers is a point against Tyson as straight punches beat looping punches everyday of the week.





I do believe we were talking about HAND speed.....I know it's hard pre-pubescent types to stay on focus with your gerbil like attention spans but please at least TRY to stay on focus?



The difference? Spinks was wetting his pants while he was climbing in the ring and looking for a soft spot to lay down while they were playing the National Anthem. Conn, on the other hand, wasn't afraid of anybody. Don't slobber praise all over Leg-Iron Mike because Spinks was a scared little rabbit.

Poet

Firstly Tyson isn't even my favourite fighter of all time, the man in my pic-Roberto Duran(just in case you have never heard of him) is.

Not allowed out after 9?-idk about your cotton life but i was allowed out to whenever when i was from 11...and im just 19 now so big difference....you are probably like 60 and still not allowed out...through choice (rather sit at home on your computer)...through not being allowed (by your mum who still lives with you)...or through fear(of being mugged).

What do you mean I do believe we were talking about HAND speed.....I know it's hard pre-pubescent types to stay on focus with your gerbil like attention spans but please at least TRY to stay on focus? i was talking about handspeed :S maybe you should go back to your opticians old man and get another thicker layer of lens.

Just because you watched boxing before me doesn't mean you know more about it than me, i live boxing, you just talk boxing, infact, thats all you seem good at...sitting down and talking, typical armchair fight fan. So don't bother playing the "im older than you therefore i know more than you" how come theres 20 year olds working at nasa and you arn't?....didn't you start education before them?...but whos more intelligent?-exactly. YOU ARE A FOOL, whos mad at tyson coz you wanna have your **** ways with him

[ironalex]

Fine comment from someone who still needs Mommy's permission to be out after 9.



Since most nuthuggers spend half their time having ****-****** fantasies about their hero it's appropriate.



I've been watching boxing since LONG before you were born Junior and I know more about the subject than you're ever likely to. Just about every boxing expert rate Ali as the fastest Heavyweight they've ever seen and that's foot speed as well as hand speed. Tyson doesn't come close. Saying Tyson threw haymakers is a point against Tyson as straight punches beat looping punches everyday of the week.



I do believe we were talking about HAND speed.....I know it's hard pre-pubescent types to stay on focus with your gerbil like attention spans but please at least TRY to stay on focus?



The difference? Spinks was wetting his pants while he was climbing in the ring and looking for a soft spot to lay down while they were playing the National Anthem. Conn, on the other hand, wasn't afraid of anybody. Don't slobber praise all over Leg-Iron Mike because Spinks was a scared little rabbit.

Poet

Also, i find it ironic that the "chicks" in your pic look all squared jawed n s hit....proves my theory.

[vandiar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRs5budNvxg

Tell me Tyson's hand speed wasn't phenomenal.

[Obama]

Hey, I have NO problems making fun of idiots and nut hugging fan-bois: The village idiots of the world need to be laughed at and told to shut up, sit down, and know their role.

Poet

Your perception of reality and right and wrong is juvenile.

And if you can't understand that displaying multiple images of baby bottles in response to me pointing out your immaturity is illogical, then god help you.

Then to top that all off, your anger is not necessarily taken out on people who are idiots or nut hugging "fan-bois". You've gotten carried away to a point where anyone who vastly disagrees with you becomes an idiot or a fanboy. And if you can't find the flaw in that logic, once again, god help you.

[Poet682006]

Firstly Tyson isn't even my favourite fighter of all time, the man in my pic-Roberto Duran(just in case you have never heard of him) is.

Not allowed out after 9?-idk about your cotton life but i was allowed out to whenever when i was from 11...and im just 19 now so big difference....you are probably like 60 and still not allowed out...through choice (rather sit at home on your computer)...through not being allowed (by your mum who still lives with you)...or through fear(of being mugged).

What do you mean I do believe we were talking about HAND speed.....I know it's hard pre-pubescent types to stay on focus with your gerbil like attention spans but please at least TRY to stay on focus? i was talking about handspeed :S maybe you should go back to your opticians old man and get another thicker layer of lens.

Just because you watched boxing before me doesn't mean you know more about it than me, i live boxing, you just talk boxing, infact, thats all you seem good at...sitting down and talking, typical armchair fight fan. So don't bother playing the "im older than you therefore i know more than you" how come theres 20 year olds working at nasa and you arn't?....didn't you start education before them?...but whos more intelligent?-exactly. YOU ARE A FOOL, whos mad at tyson coz you wanna have your **** ways with him

Ah! The little boy's too unhinged to make a coherent post now......excellent! The little boy Marshmellow Alex is crying cuz he knows the best he can look forward to is flipping burgers at Mickey-Ds the rest of his life while he tells his buddies at the bath house how he "coulda been a contenda"

Poet

[Spartacus Sully]

a off spin conversation between the poet and i, read the posts man.

so you agree that tyson is more overrated due to his short carrer.

what are you argueing then? tyson vs louis? make a thread or is it tyson vs any decent heavy weight that poet can come up with? or do you just want poet to admit that tyson ewasnt a bum?

and for those 5 seconds yeah his hands speed was good how about his parrying and deflecting skills? how good is he at moving both hands at once blocking and attacking at the same time? sure louis couldnt punch as quickly but he could do alot of other things all at the same time his hands flowed together like a river. theres more then just punching when you consider hand speed

[ironalex]

Ah! The little boy's too unhinged to make a coherent post now......excellent! The little boy Marshmellow Alex is crying cuz he knows the best he can look forward to is flipping burgers at Mickey-Ds the rest of his life while he tells his buddies at the bath house how he "coulda been a contenda"

Poet

haha wow....a long time and you come up with that pathetic reply? "marshmellow Alex"....and as for "flipping burgers" hah...ive got contract wit one of the best promoters in europe and tipped by a lot of people,what have you achieved in boxing?-nothing. In life?-nothing, you can think what you want to think your life is past, ive got a lot to look forward too one of the great things about youth ey?.. ive done dealin wit this ***.