How was Holyfields punching power at cruiserweight?

[them_apples]

I have a strong feeling people think Rocky hit's way harder than him at HW. How was Holyfield considered as a puncher at cruiser?, once he put on all that muscle for HW he would obviously hit even harder.

I'm not saying Rocky doesn't hit harder, I just don't think there would be a huge difference, especially since a lot of his Koes were based on workrate.

[sonnyboyx2]

I have a strong feeling people think Rocky hit's way harder than him at HW. How was Holyfield considered as a puncher at cruiser?, once he put on all that muscle for HW he would obviously hit even harder.

I'm not saying Rocky doesn't hit harder, I just don't think there would be a huge difference, especially since a lot of his Koes were based on workrate.

Holyfield was a butal puncher at cruiserweight, he was by far the greatest cruiser of all time punching hard enough to KO former champions Dwight Braxton, Carlos DeLeon, Ricky Parkey & Ossie Ocassio on his way to unifying the title, Holyfield was also a brutal puncher as an amateur where he fought at light-heavy.

[NakiFan]

Did he hit harder than Haye at c/w?

[RightCross94]

He stopped De Leon and Qawi at CW, he had pretty good power there

Holyfield was actually known for a big punch at CW and at 178 in the amateurs, it's just that as a HW he fought so many guys who outweighed him and so many tough, hard jawed guys his power didnt really shine through

[sonnyboyx2]

Did he hit harder than Haye at c/w?

yes he did, Holyfield was a different animal altogether compared to David Haye

[mickey malone]

I think Holyfield punched equally hard at both weights.. Certainly the most natural adaption from cruiser to heavy in the sports history.. Holy's ****** out too many heavies to mention.. IE: Rodriguez, Douglas, Tyson, Dokes as well as nearly stopping Rid**** Bowe.. He carried his punch well in my opinion, & was only slightly more powerful at heavy, but enough..

[TheGreatA]

I wouldn't say he was a huge puncher at CW. Certainly a capable one but he mostly overwhelmed opposition and broke them down.

Look at the DeLeon fight for example, Holyfield hits him with everything to force a stoppage.

I don't really count the Qawi rematch as much because Qawi clearly didn't put up much of an effort. In their first fight Qawi took everything Holyfield could throw at him and smiled.

Rocky Marciano was known as a one punch KO artist until being convinced by his trainer Charlie Goldman to sacrifice some power for greater workrate. The overhand right had won him the championship but only looking for that one big punch had also put him in danger of losing.

When Marciano fought Charles, he kept throwing and throwing and managed to win a decision by outworking his more skilled opponent.

[Silencers]

I think Holyfield had more power with 1 punch at cruiserweight but he still wasn't a 1 punch knockout artist kind of guy.

[them_apples]

I wouldn't say he was a huge puncher at CW. Certainly a capable one but he mostly overwhelmed opposition and broke them down.

Look at the DeLeon fight for example, Holyfield hits him with everything to force a stoppage.

I don't really count the Qawi rematch as much because Qawi clearly didn't put up much of an effort. In their first fight Qawi took everything Holyfield could throw at him and smiled.

Rocky Marciano was known as a one punch KO artist until being convinced by his trainer Charlie Goldman to sacrifice some power for greater workrate. The overhand right had won him the championship but only looking for that one big punch had also put him in danger of losing.

When Marciano fought Charles, he kept throwing and throwing and managed to win a decision by outworking his more skilled opponent.

I really don't think that's the case. I think his biggest strength was stamina (Marciano).

He was able to sit down on his punches for 15 rounds. He had a lot of fights that he got the KO just by his workrate. sort of like Tony Margarito, people think he's a big puncher but it's just due to his stamina. I think in part Marcianos great stamina came from his small size.

Size doesn't always matter because a lot of big guys are slow and have poor coordination, in this case however, both Holyfield and Rocky really know how to throw a punch - only holfield is the bigger stronger and faster man.

If they met prime for prime I really can't see Rocky being able to handle Holyfield. Every punch rocky loads up on holyfield could slip in 2 sharp counters. In Holyfields prime (208-210 lbs) he was able to throw back just as much leather as Rocky.

I think Moore even said Patterson hit harder than Rocky, just Rocky was constant.

[TheGreatA]

I really don't think that's the case. I think his biggest strength was stamina (Marciano).

He was able to sit down on his punches for 15 rounds. He had a lot of fights that he got the KO just by his workrate. sort of like Tony Margarito, people think he's a big puncher but it's just due to his stamina. I think in part Marcianos great stamina came from his small size.

Size doesn't always matter because a lot of big guys are slow and have poor coordination, in this case however, both Holyfield and Rocky really know how to throw a punch - only holfield is the bigger stronger and faster man.

If they met prime for prime I really can't see Rocky being able to handle Holyfield. Every punch rocky loads up on holyfield could slip in 2 sharp counters. In Holyfields prime (208-210 lbs) he was able to throw back just as much leather as Rocky.

I think Moore even said Patterson hit harder than Rocky, just Rocky was constant.

I agree that Marciano's biggest strength was his stamina but he did have a lot of punching power as well. Many of his KO's are among the most violent in boxing history.

As I said, during the later part of his career he did not look to get his opposition out of there with single punches any longer. Watch his fights against Layne, Louis and Walcott, he throws fewer punches with all of his weight behind them. All ended in brutal one punch knockouts but Marciano was somewhat less effective and often down on the cards.