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  • #11
    Originally posted by Chr0nic View Post
    he's pretty much asking which style beats the other

    but the thing is ali was one dimensional and roy jones was a big puncher that carried his punching power well, if he was 6'3 , even tho ali has a great jaw, there would be a high percentage in ali being stopped in the championship rounds

    ali's style = jab to the head, keep distance
    roy's style = in and out, power shots

    Roy was not that big of a puncher at LHW imo.


    Guys like Del Valle, Gonzalez, Telesco did not have THAT much trouble with his power.

    Ali was no more one dimensional than Roy, neither fighter was good inside.

    Roy punched of angles well, but that also got him knocked out, past prime or not.
    Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 07-14-2009, 09:13 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
      Roy was not that big of a puncher at LHW imo, neither fighter was good inside.

      Roy punched of angles well, but that also got him knocked out, past prime or not.



      Guys like Del Valle, Gonzalez, Telesco did not have THAT much trouble with his power.

      Ali was no more one dimensional than Roy.
      riiiight........

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Chr0nic View Post
        riiiight........
        Roy could not fight inside either.

        Roy had trouble with left handers

        Roy was not comfortable on the front foot taking the lead.

        I dont think Roy was one dimensional but neither was Ali.
        Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 07-14-2009, 09:25 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
          Roy could not fight inside either.

          Roy had trouble with left handers

          Roy was not comfortable in the front foot taking the lead.

          I dont think Roy was one dimensional but neither was Ali.
          ali = jab to the head, keep distance

          how many times have you seen ali punch to the body?
          that's one dimensional
          roy jones switched it up, he went from orthodox to southpaw, fought with either hand(fought with left hand against hopkins, right against telesco) and has gone to the body, gone to the head occasionally, one after the other in combo's whilst circling the opponent

          i've given you some examples of why 'I' think jones is not one dimensional
          what you got for ali? i honestly dont ever remember a body punch by him except for maybe a feint to the body but that hardly counts as a bodyshot, i never seen him in the inside neither, jones has the upperhand in in-fighting as i've seen him do it, even if he aint great at it

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Chr0nic View Post
            ali = jab to the head, keep distance

            how many times have you seen ali punch to the body?
            that's one dimensional
            roy jones switched it up, he went from orthodox to southpaw, fought with either hand(fought with left hand against hopkins, right against telesco) and has gone to the body, gone to the head occasionally, one after the other in combo's whilst circling the opponent

            i've given you some examples of why 'I' think jones is not one dimensional
            what you got for ali? i honestly dont ever remember a body punch by him except for maybe a feint to the body but that hardly counts as a bodyshot, i never seen him in the inside neither, jones has the upperhand in in-fighting as i've seen him do it, even if he aint great at it



            Its true Ali was a long range fighter that rarely threw body punches but that does not= one dimensional.

            If Jones was not "one dimensional" his career would not have ended as early as it did, you can bring up him coming back down from HW but the bottom line is he did not have the ability to adapt when he lost his reflexes. I think he was 35 at the time, although i could be wrong.

            Id hazard a guess that Ali was still beating good fighters at that stage of his career, if he was so one dimmenional he would not of been able to do that. Also if he was as one dimensional as you claim you would of thought more fighters would of been able to capitalize on what he could not do in the ring NO?


            When you have the footwork, jab and countering skills of Ali its not a necessity to fight inside, same as it was not for Jones when he was in his prime.

            Roy is not better inside than Ali was imo, could Roy have got through what Ali went through with Frazier ? i dont think so.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by mickey malone View Post
              Oh no!

              Silly posts starting to creep in on the HISTORY of the sport..
              To avoid embarrassment, please put this crap on Fantasy Fights..

              C'mmon! Just look at the poll... Sorry.... I don't want to be invoved...
              Better yet, keep silly posts in NSB were the other prepubescent fan-bois post theirs.

              Poet

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                Its true Ali was a long range fighter that rarely threw body punches but that does not= one dimensional.

                If Jones was not "one dimensional" his career would not have ended as early as it did, you can bring up him coming back down from HW but the bottom line is he did not have the ability to adapt when he lost his reflexes. I think he was 35 at the time, although i could be wrong.

                Id hazard a guess that Ali was still beating good fighters at that stage of his career, if he was so one dimmenional he would not of been able to do that. Also if he was as one dimensional as you claim you would of thought more fighters would of been able to capitalize on what he could not do in the ring NO?


                When you have the footwork, jab and countering skills of Ali its not a necessity to fight inside, same as it was not for Jones when he was in his prime.

                Roy is not better inside than Ali was imo, could Roy have got through what Ali went through with Frazier ? i dont think so.
                Roy isnt going to stand in a corner getting pummeled on for the sake of it... in his prime...

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                  Roy isnt going to stand in a corner getting pummeled on for the sake of it... in his prime...

                  You think Roy could keep the fight in the centre of the ring with Joe Frazier over the coarse of a 15 rounder ?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                    You think Roy could keep the fight in the centre of the ring with Joe Frazier over the coarse of a 15 rounder ?
                    I think he would do his damnest to keep it in the center of the ring.... Roys not playing rope a dope against a Joe Frazier... its more ridiculous to think hes doing the rope a dope to frazier than to circle him...

                    PRIME ROY... PRIME... doesnt get tired, 6x faster than Frazier...

                    He either outboxes the **** out of him or gets knocked the **** out

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                      Better yet, keep silly posts in NSB were the other prepubescent fan-bois post theirs.

                      Poet
                      I only go on there to take the piss lol....

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