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  • #21
    Originally posted by mickey malone View Post
    I only go on there to take the piss lol....
    Yeah no kidding.....The level of ******ity and ignorance in NSB can be entertaining at times, nauseating at others. Most of the children in there can count on there fingers the number of pre-1990 fights they've seen.....and practically all of them nuthug on the current era. Sad thing is, most of them don't realize that they're prime evidence for the argument that mankind's intelligence is regressing not moving forward.

    Poet

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    • #22
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
      I think he would do his damnest to keep it in the center of the ring.... Roys not playing rope a dope against a Joe Frazier... its more ridiculous to think hes doing the rope a dope to frazier than to circle him...

      PRIME ROY... PRIME... doesnt get tired, 6x faster than Frazier...

      He either outboxes the **** out of him or gets knocked the **** out
      Roy did go against the ropes quite often though, even in his prime.

      I don't think anyone could keep the fight in the center of the ring against Frazier without knocking him out.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        I think he would do his damnest to keep it in the center of the ring.... Roys not playing rope a dope against a Joe Frazier... its more ridiculous to think hes doing the rope a dope to frazier than to circle him...

        PRIME ROY... PRIME... doesnt get tired, 6x faster than Frazier...

        He either outboxes the **** out of him or gets knocked the **** out
        Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
        Roy did go against the ropes quite often though, even in his prime.

        I don't think anyone could keep the fight in the center of the ring against Frazier without knocking him out.

        Agree on both counts.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
          Roy did go against the ropes quite often though, even in his prime.

          I don't think anyone could keep the fight in the center of the ring against Frazier without knocking him out.
          he went to the ropes for a second.... hed use his arms to block punches for 10 seconds maybe, then get out of there...

          hes talking about going thru what ali went thru which is, completely the opposite... circle frazier for 10 seconds.. and spend the next 2 1/2 on the ropes...

          Roy isnt going to do that...

          Roy would know what he would have to do to beat frazier, and laying on the ropes wouldnt be one of them



          Roy also wasnt laying on the ropes against someone the size of Frazier

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          • #25
            Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
            Yeah no kidding.....The level of ******ity and ignorance in NSB can be entertaining at times, nauseating at others. Most of the children in there can count on there fingers the number of pre-1990 fights they've seen.....and practically all of them nuthug on the current era. Sad thing is, most of them don't realize that they're prime evidence for the argument that mankind's intelligence is regressing not moving forward.

            Poet
            And to think that dinosaurs ruled the earth for over 300,000,000 years.. What hope is there for the future of mankind lol...

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            • #26
              Hey guys to keep it in perspective, the basis of bringing Frazier into it was to establish whether or not Roy was better inside than Ali or not.

              Good or bad analogy to use but what do you think about who was better inside ? Ali or Jones.

              I dont think there is much to choose.

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              • #27
                too tough to compare... u have a guy who didnt do a lot of inside fighting compared to a guy who did a lot...

                THe thing is Ali got hit a lot on the inside, he was just tough enough to absorb it..

                IMO neither fighter is REALLY good fighting on the inside


                I think Floyd is incredible on the inside... but hes not in the discussion

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                  too tough to compare... u have a guy who didnt do a lot of inside fighting compared to a guy who did a lot...

                  [B]THe thing is Ali got hit a lot on the inside, he was just tough enough to absorb it../B]

                  IMO neither fighter is REALLY good fighting on the inside


                  I think Floyd is incredible on the inside... but hes not in the discussion

                  That is pretty much why i cant choose one over the other, because Ali did take a lot on the inside and still came through tough fights, but Roy did also slip and fire a few nice hooks to the body around the elbows when inside etc.

                  Jones was probably better offensively inside but i think Ali was better at protecting himself inside, although that sounds strange thing to say because he did take a lot on the inside, Jones tried hard to keep his back of the ropes where as Ali was sometimes to content to lay there, Jones looked vulnerable to me when on the inside where as Ali looked more at ease albeit not that effective.

                  Toney did occasionally have Roy on the ropes in their fight and Roy did a pretty decent job there, but thats the thing with Roy he did look okay when firing back, but he looked open and uncomfortable when he just kept his hands up, hence the reason i say Ali was better defensively and Roy offensively.

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                  • #29
                    i would accept that

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