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Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Louis At HW
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Hi Mickey, I totally see your angle. Fighting champs like Louis and Ali defended their titles very regularly and would be more ring sharp than someone who defends their title two or three times a year.
I've probably argued your way in the past too, certain fighters can make the generation jump. I'm sure that Robinson would do more than well today for example.
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Originally posted by Sugarj View PostHi Mickey, I totally see your angle. Fighting champs like Louis and Ali defended their titles very regularly and would be more ring sharp than someone who defends their title two or three times a year.
I've probably argued your way in the past too, certain fighters can make the generation jump. I'm sure that Robinson would do more than well today for example.
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Quite right...........and about time for the cruiserweights!
I've not seen a cruiserweight with faster hands than Floyd Patterson or Ali since the creation of the division, the old training methods clearly worked. David Haye has pretty quick hands but not in their league, likewise the younger Holyfield.
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I could have sworn we covered this fight already. I'd give it to Joe Louis by knock out in the late rounds; like 13 or 14. If Jones can get knocked out by Tarver, Louis can most definately bomb on RJJ.
Someone answer me this, what is the big deal about RJJ? Aside from him being an entertainer and a gentleman, is he really a super fighter? I've never been a RJJ fan, i liked Sugar Shane better during the 90s era. Speaking of which, is Jones still fighting? Or did he hang em up? His last fight was against that Joe guy wasn't it?
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Jone's ability to hold a punch was very good until he lost weight to fight Tarver, so many seem to think that Roy always had a glass chin. It wasn't the case. Other fighters who had great chins until having problems making weight include Hatton, De La Hoya, Ray Leonard and Chris Byrd. I think it is something to do with a lack of cushioning fluid around the brain.
We'll never know how a matchup would have gone but I do think that Roy at heavyweight was better, faster, craftier and more powerful than other hit and move types who gave Louis kittens like Farr and Conn.
Over twelve rounds I'd lean to a Jones decision........(but I'd be rooting for Louis!!).
As for Roy, hes just beaten Calzaghe victim Omar Sheika and has a big fight coming up with Jeff Lacy. If you didn't like him in the 90s check out his fights with Thornton, Brannon, Toney or Griffin 2, the man was amazing. I liked Sugar Shane too mind!
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Originally posted by Squabbles94806 View PostI could have sworn we covered this fight already. I'd give it to Joe Louis by knock out in the late rounds; like 13 or 14. If Jones can get knocked out by Tarver, Louis can most definately bomb on RJJ.
Someone answer me this, what is the big deal about RJJ? Aside from him being an entertainer and a gentleman, is he really a super fighter? I've never been a RJJ fan, i liked Sugar Shane better during the 90s era. Speaking of which, is Jones still fighting? Or did he hang em up? His last fight was against that Joe guy wasn't it?
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostThe big deal about Roy is that his speed and reflexes may be the best ever, at light heavyweight the guy moved like a welterweight or lightweight. His fundamentals are lacking and that has cost him since he came back down from heavyweight.
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