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  • StarshipTrooper
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    #51
    Round 4
    Time Commentary Points
    0:00 The seconds hurry out of Marciano s corner as the bell sounds for Round 4. 0:0
    0:06 Louis got quite a pep talk in his corner; we ll see if Jack Blackburn s
    instructions work. 0:0
    0:11 Joe Louis lands a strong uppercut! 4:0
    0:11 Marciano looks stunned! 4:0
    0:16 Both fighters are unmarked at this stage of the fight. 4:0
    0:21 Louis lets his hands go inside and scores with at least two hard shots to Marciano s ribcage and neck. 7:0
    0:30 Marciano tries to push Louis back in an attempt to gain room to punch. 7:0
    0:34 Both fighters are feinting with the shoulders. Now, Louis lands the right hand. 9:0
    0:43 Louis quickly hitches up his trunks. 9:0
    0:50 Watch Louis move. He is darting in and out, in and out, keeping Marciano off balance. 9:0
    0:58 Louis traps Rocky Marciano in the corner! 9:0
    01:02 Louis s punch actually goes behind Marciano as the latter moved inside just as Louis threw a looping shot. 9:0
    01:13 Louis landed a sharp combination that rocked Rocky Marciano back on his heels! 13:0
    01:13 Marciano was stopped cold by that series of shots! 13:0
    01:25 Rocky Marciano rips to the head with a powerful right cross. 13:3
    01:39 Marciano is either lucky or has radar. Louis s last punch missed landing by a fraction of an inch! 13:3
    01:50 Marciano is off target with that punch. 13:3
    01:57 The action slows for the moment. 13:3
    02:10 * Louis lands a vicious uppercut and down goes Marciano! 13:3
    02:12 The count starts... 20:3
    02:12 1... 20:3
    02:13 2... 20:3
    02:14 3... 20:3
    02:15 4... 20:3
    02:16 5... 20:3
    02:16 * Marciano's legs look bad as he manages to rise from the knockdown. The referee is finishing the mandatory 8 count. 20:3
    02:17 6... 20:3
    02:18 7... 20:3
    02:19 8... 20:3
    02:19 Lane is allowing the fight to continue. Marciano looks real shaken to us, however. 20:3
    02:19 Marciano has suffered a delayed reaction to that last punch. He lurched forward and his legs look bad. Louis needs to capitalize on this moment because he can end this thing right now. 20:3
    02:32 Louis is just missing by a hair with his punches. 20:3
    02:43 Louis fires and misses. 20:3
    02:54 He fails to connect with that punch. He pushed it out there instead of cutting loose with it. 20:3
    03:00 Rocky Marciano retreats into the right corner. 20:3
    03:00 The bell sounded, ending the round but it s a wonder the referee and the fighters could hear it over the noise being made by the crowd. That
    knockdown really pumped up the spectators here tonight. 22:3
    03:00 Louis wings a big left hand at Marciano but the latter sidesteps the punch. 20:3

    Round 5
    Time Commentary Points
    0:00 It s Round 5 of this scheduled 15 rounder. 0:0
    0:08 Jack Blackburn seemed to pump up Louis between rounds. 0:0
    0:08 Marciano drives home an uppercut. That punch had something on it. 0:3
    0:13 No blood, no bruises and no swelling; you wouldn t know that these guys have already fought 5 rounds. 0:3
    0:21 Marciano has Louis trapped in the near right neutral corner... 0:3
    0:21 The cross scores for Marciano. He needs to throw that punch more often. 0:5
    0:37 Neither fighter is straying far from the middle of the ring. 0:5
    0:42 Louis circles left, then right in an attempt to cut off the ring. 0:5
    0:46 The two men are circling one another, looking for an opening. 0:5
    0:54 Louis dips as if to launch a body shot, then goes upstairs with a quick hook to the head that puts Rocky Marciano back on his heels! 4:5
    0:54 Marciano appears to have been staggered by that punch… 4:5
    01:03 Louis lands the right hand. He s pretty effective with that punch when he sets it up right. 6:5
    01:17 Louis holds his arms up in disgust as Marciano holds him around his waist. 6:5
    01:29 Referee Lane has to separate the two... 6:5
    01:38 Marciano just landed a three punch combo! 6:9
    01:38 Louis is going to need to regroup after that series of blows... 6:9
    01:43 Marciano is rebounding from the knockdown he suffered in the last frame. 6:9
    01:51 Louis backs into his own corner... 6:9
    01:55 Marciano is holding… 6:9
    02:13 The Referee breaks it up... 6:9
    02:26 No one is going to confuse Marciano with a ballerina, but at least he isn t just standing still. 6:9
    02:41 Marciano misses with the left and then fails to connect with the right as well. 6:9
    02:54 Marciano slides along the far ropes. 6:9
    03:00 Marciano fires a left hand that Louis takes high on the shoulder. 6:9
    03:00 There s the bell. That brings Round 5 to a close. 7:10

    Round 6
    Time Commentary Points
    0:00 Louis looks to be in good shape as Round 6 gets underway. 0:0
    0:06 Hey, that ringcard girl was something else! 0:0
    0:10 Marciano has Louis trapped! 0:0
    0:14 Marciano bulls his way inside, pushing Louis up against the ropes. Good thing they don t score on style points. 0:0
    0:14 Neither fighter shows any wear and tear at this point. 0:0
    0:18 Charley Goldman was really animated in Marciano s corner and Marciano was nodding in agreement. 0:0
    0:19 Marciano has Louis blocked in! 0:0
    0:23 Marciano lands a devastating cross! 0:4
    0:23 OH! Marciano landed it square and Louis felt it! 0:4
    0:37 Marciano lands a solid hook! 0:8
    0:37 Joe Louis is suddenly in trouble! 0:8
    0:51 Marciano doesn t look all that graceful but he moves fairly well in the ring. 0:8
    0:55 Joe Louis is trying to avoid shots to the body. He d better look out for shots to the head! 0:8
    0:58 Marciano pins Louis in the corner! 0:8
    01:03 Marciano fires a shot, but it glances off Louis s shoulder. 0:8
    01:10 Both fighters are scoring in this exchange but Marciano is coming out on top. 2:10
    01:24 Joe Louis is clinching... Marciano is trying to free his gloves... They are under Louis s arms... 2:10
    01:29 Joe Louis pushes Marciano away. 2:10
    01:38 Marciano tries to give angles as he continues his relentless forward motion. 2:10
    01:43 Marciano has Louis cornered! 2:10
    01:47 Marciano is jockeying for position as he tries to force Louis back into the corner. 2:10
    01:57 Louis slams home the jab. That punch landed with the force of a cross or a hook. 5:10
    02:06 The crowd is reacting to every punch thrown by these guys, whether it lands or not. 5:10
    02:09 Both fighters sneak a breather as they clinch. Now they move apart. 5:10
    02:12 Marciano pins Louis in the corner! 5:10
    02:16 Marciano drops the right hand flush on Louis s chin! 5:15
    02:16 Louis is going to need to regroup after that blow... 5:15
    02:30 Marciano lands a crushing combination! 5:19
    02:30 Louis was staggered by those punches... 5:19
    02:43 Marciano tries a straight right that s blocked by the gloves of Louis. 5:19
    02:54 Marciano just delivered a wake up call!!! He hurt Louis with a sharp
    combination! 5:23
    02:54 Louis appears shaken by those punches! 5:23
    03:00 We re at the 3:00 mark and that brings this round to an end. 4:25

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    • StarshipTrooper
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      #52
      Round 7
      Time Commentary Points
      0:00 Marciano looks to be in excellent shape as Round 7 gets underway. 0:0
      0:07 Whatever Charley Goldman said to him in the corner between rounds must have had some effect. Marciano is letting his hands go. 0:0
      0:08 Both fighters are pawing with the jab, trying to find an opening. Louis digs a quick hook into the exposed side of Marciano. 2:0
      0:12 Both fighters show virtually nothing in the way of damage. 2:0
      0:20 Marciano seems to be protecting his body which is leaving his head vulnerable. He doesn t like body shots but I don t know anyone that does. 2:0
      0:28 Marciano misses with that punch. 2:0
      0:30 Joe Louis rips off two quick jabs and one finds the mark. 4:0
      0:40 Louis moves into a neutral corner. 4:0
      0:40 Marciano shoots the right home. That s a sneaky punch. 4:2
      0:53 Marciano works his way in and leans on Louis. 4:2
      0:58 Both fighters move to ring center. 4:2
      01:02 Rocky Marciano dips as if to launch a body shot, then goes upstairs with a quick hook to the head that puts Louis back on his heels! 4:6
      01:02 That s the shot Marciano hoped to land! Louis looks bad after that series of blows. 4:6
      01:12 The fighters are jockeying for position as both men try to gain the advantage here in the 7th. 4:6
      01:15 Marciano slides into his own corner... 4:6
      01:20 Marciano tries to muscle inside but Louis clinches him. 4:6
      01:29 Referee Lane separates the two... 4:6
      01:38 Louis can t win this fight if he just throws one punch at a time. Now he just unloaded a flurry of punches and several scored cleanly. 6:6
      01:47 Marciano has Louis trapped in the right neutral corner... 6:6
      01:52 Marciano lands a devastating hook! 6:10
      01:52 Louis is hurt! 6:10
      02:05 The two fighters lean on one another, neither willing to do any work for the moment. The referee pushes them apart and tells them to get on with the action. 6:10
      02:17 Louis throws a flurry of punches but Marciano either blocks or slips them. 6:10
      02:19 Marciano blasts two wicked shots to the ribs of Louis and you could see him wince in pain. 6:13
      02:31 Marciano digs two shots to the body and then rips Louis with a short uppercut on the inside. 6:16
      02:40 Marciano lands two quick, hard uppercuts that make Louis take a half step backwards. 6:19
      02:54 Louis picks off the jab thrown by Marciano. 6:19
      02:56 Joe Louis digs a short hook to ribs of Marciano. 8:19
      03:00 And there s the bell ending Round 7. 7:21

      Round 8
      Time Commentary Points
      0:00 Marciano is getting his full rest as he remains on his stool as the Round 8 bell sounds. Now he s up and his corner scrambles to exit the ring. 0:0
      0:05 Charley Goldman not only gave Marciano encouragement between rounds but also some solid advice on how to handle Louis. Now it s up to Marciano to implement it. 0:0
      0:11 Joe Louis lets his hands go but his punches land on the arms of Marciano. 0:0
      0:17 Marciano catches Joe Louis coming in with a sweet uppercut! 0:4
      0:17 Joe Louis is suddenly in trouble! 0:4
      0:22 Both of these guys look just like they came out of their dressing rooms not a mark on them. 0:4
      0:26 Lane is getting too involved in the fight and is becoming more of a factor than a referee is supposed to be. 0:4
      0:29 Louis scores big with that hook to the jaw of Marciano. Marciano took a step back after absorbing that shot. 3:4
      0:43 Marciano has been watching too much wrestling. He s clinching. 3:4
      0:47 Lane moves them apart. 3:4
      0:57 It s a sweet uppercut by Marciano! He snapped Louis s head straight back with that punch! 3:9
      0:57 That was a beautiful uppercut! Louis s eyes actually rolled back in his head! It s amazing that he's still standing. 3:9
      01:09 Louis moves into the upper left corner. 3:9
      01:14 Marciano pins Louis s arms. Now they move apart. 3:9
      01:29 Louis pushes Marciano away. 3:9
      01:36 Marciano has Louis pinned! 3:9
      01:40 Marciano tries to double up on the jab but neither hit the mark. 3:9
      01:52 Marciano lands a strong hook! 3:13
      01:52 Louis was staggered by that punch! 3:13
      02:06 Joe Louis and Marciano are in a clinch, Lane hollers at them to break and start fighting. 3:13
      02:15 Louis and Rocky Marciano each take a step back. 3:13
      02:24 Marciano fires a volley of punches but Louis was already moving laterally and was out of harm s way by the time Marciano started punching. 3:13
      02:31 Rocky Marciano is receiving a lot of encouragement from his corner. If this helps win fights, he has a real good shot tonight. 3:13
      02:35 Louis is blocked in his own corner... 3:13
      02:40 Marciano lands a crushing combination! 3:17
      02:40 Louis appears shaken by those punches! 3:17
      02:44 Louis is starting to swell just a little under his right eye. It remains to be seen if it will become a problem. 3:17
      02:53 Lane warns Marciano for holding and hitting, although he is doing a lot more holding than hitting. 3:17
      02:58 Lane has to break them apart. 3:17
      03:00 Marciano pins Louis s arms against his body stopping him from throwing any punches. 3:17
      03:00 Lane has to break the clinch. 3:17
      03:00 There s the bell, finishing Round 8. 2:17

      Round 9
      Time Commentary Points
      0:00 Louis and Marciano square off as the bell sounds to start the action for Round 9. 0:0
      0:07 The swelling on the face of Louis is noticeable, even at a distance. Although his corner men were applying cold compresses and trying to work the swelling away from his eyes, Louis still has distension. 0:0
      0:13 Louis drops his shoulder as if to throw a right, then quickly rips a quick left hook to the body that makes Marciano wince! 5:0
      0:13 Marciano looks shaken! 5:0
      0:22 Marciano s corner men did their job with quiet efficiency and confidence. 5:0
      0:27 OH! Louis landed the big hook flush! 9:0
      0:27 Marciano is staggered… 9:0
      0:36 Louis has Marciano pinned! 9:0
      0:41 Louis doubled up on the hook. Did you see the water fly off Marciano s head? 13:0
      0:41 Marciano appears shaken by this punch! 13:0
      0:55 Marciano drives the hook home. 13:3
      0:59 The swelling at Louis s right eye is worsening. 13:3
      01:04 Marciano slides into the corner... 13:3
      01:09 Louis scores with a winging right! Marciano s head turned halfway round with that punch! 17:3
      01:09 Marciano was staggered by that punch! 17:3
      01:21 Marciano throws a punch and lands. Louis scores with a counter. Looks like both fighters were effective in that exchange. 19:5
      01:30 Louis lands to the chest and neck of Marciano. 21:5
      01:39 Marciano retreats into the far left corner. 21:5
      01:39 Marciano lets go with a hook but Louis blocks it and then he scores with a hook of his own! 23:5
      01:53 That was a straight right by Louis! 27:5
      01:53 Marciano is hurt! 27:5
      02:02 Louis has Marciano cornered! 27:5
      02:07 Louis misses badly. It looked like he changed his mind half way through the punch. 27:5
      02:14 Marciano just landed a three punch combo! 27:10
      02:14 Louis was shaken by those blows! 27:10
      02:18 Louis s right eye is becoming more swollen and it s going to need controlled in order for Joe Louis to see properly out of it. 27:10
      02:28 Louis scores with a tremendous left! 31:10
      02:28 Marciano was stunned by that blow! 31:10
      02:37 * That punch caught Marciano clean. He brings his arms up in a defensive posture. Now he pitches forward! Marciano goes down after a delayed reaction to the hook by Louis! 31:10
      02:40 Lane begins the count... 41:10
      02:40 1... 41:10
      02:41 2... 41:10
      02:42 3... 41:10
      02:43 4... 41:10
      02:44 5... 41:10
      02:45 6... 41:10
      02:46 7... 41:10
      02:47 8... 41:10
      02:48 9... 41:10
      02:49 10! 41:10
      02:49 * That's it! Marciano can't beat the count. Louis wins this fight with a knockout. 41:10


      Fight Result
      Here s Michael Buffer with the call…
      Ladies and Gentlemen! The winner by knockout at the 02:50 mark in Round 9 is…..Joe Louis!


      Score Cards
      Tony Perez Puerto Rico Round Total
      Joe Louis 75
      Rocky Marciano 76

      Franz Marti Switzerland Round Total
      Joe Louis 76
      Rocky Marciano 76

      Lee McCowan United States Round Total
      Joe Louis 76
      Rocky Marciano 77

      Round Totals
      Joe Louis 227
      Rocky Marciano 229


      Statistics

      Categories Joe Louis Rocky Marciano
      Knockdowns scored 2 0
      Total Number of Fouls 0 0
      Cuts 0 0

      Punches Landed
      Jabs 53 19
      Hooks 49 34
      Crosses 48 68
      Combinations 58 33
      Uppercuts 34 33

      Punches Thrown 476 532
      Punches Landed 242 187
      Punches Missed 234 345
      Punching Accuracy 50.8% 35.2%

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      • NakiFan
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        #53
        I hope you realise you are going to be doing this forever now poet?

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        • StarshipTrooper
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          #54
          Originally posted by Infern0
          I hope you realise you are going to be doing this forever now poet?
          No doubt!

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          • GJC
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            #55
            Thanks, really enjoyed that though knew you'd pick one of the ones Louis won
            Which programme was that from? Must say the 1st programmes results seemed a bit more accurate than the 2nd.
            Is it easy for a complete computer idiot to use? Might have to invest looks great fun.
            You should post the commentary for the Wlad/Vitaliv Ali fights sure they would be popular lol

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            • GJC
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              #56
              Originally posted by Infern0
              I hope you realise you are going to be doing this forever now poet?
              I'm running out of ink writing down my requests

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              • StarshipTrooper
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                #57
                Originally posted by GJC
                Thanks, really enjoyed that though knew you'd pick one of the ones Louis won
                Which programme was that from? Must say the 1st programmes results seemed a bit more accurate than the 2nd.
                Is it easy for a complete computer idiot to use? Might have to invest looks great fun.
                You should post the commentary for the Wlad/Vitaliv Ali fights sure they would be popular lol
                The round by round transcript is from Title Bout II which, as you pointed out is a bit more accurate. As for ease of use, it's one of the easiest ones I've ever used. It also gives you the ability to have literally THOUSANDS of fighters.

                Poet

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                • StarshipTrooper
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by GJC
                  There's 100's isn't there?
                  Burley v Robinson
                  Wills v Dempsey
                  Dempsey v Johnson
                  Greb v Ketchell
                  Langford v both of above

                  I'll load, you fire
                  And the results are in!


                  Title Bout II

                  Benny Leonard 54-39-7 with 13 stoppages
                  Roberto Duran 39-54-7 with 23 stoppages


                  Data Boxing

                  Benny Leonard 72-26-2 with 5 stoppages
                  Roberto Duran 26-72-2 with 15 stoppages

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                  Title Bout II

                  Ray Robinson 67-30-3 with 41 stoppages
                  Charley Burley 30-67-3 with 13 stoppages


                  Data Boxing

                  Ray Robinson 70-22-8 with 21 stoppages
                  Charley Burley 22-70-8 with 11 stoppages

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                  Title Bout II

                  Jack Dempsey 74-23-3 with 63 stoppages
                  Harry Wills 23-74-3 with 7 stoppages


                  Data Boxing

                  Jack Dempsey 95-3-2 with 58 stoppages
                  Harry Wills 3-95-2 with 3 stoppages

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                  Title Bout II

                  Jack Johnson 53-44-3 with 19 stoppages
                  Jack Dempsey 44-53-3 with 25 stoppages


                  Data Boxing

                  Jack Johnson 51-46-3 with 35 stoppages
                  Jack Dempsey 46-51-3 with 23 stoppages

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                  Title Bout II

                  Stanley Ketchell 52-46-2 with 41 stoppages
                  HarryGreb 46-52-2 with 33 stoppages


                  Data Boxing

                  Stanley Ketchell 29-68-3 with 17 stoppages
                  HarryGreb 68-29-3 with 0 stoppages

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                  Title Bout II

                  Sam Langford 60-40-0 with 58 stoppages
                  Stanley Ketchell 40-60-0 with 40 stoppages


                  Data Boxing

                  Sam Langford 69-28-3 with 28 stoppages
                  Stanley Ketchell 28-69-3 with 20 stoppages

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                  Title Bout II

                  Sam Langford 71-27-2 with 56 stoppages
                  HarryGreb 27-71-2 with 17 stoppages


                  Data Boxing

                  Sam Langford 42-51-7 with 14 stoppages
                  HarryGreb 51-42-7 with 0 stoppages

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                  I think from here on out I'll just run the bouts on Title Bout II since, as GJC has pointed out, it's the more realistic of the two.

                  Poet

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                  • StarshipTrooper
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by GJC
                    Thanks, really enjoyed that though knew you'd pick one of the ones Louis won
                    Which programme was that from? Must say the 1st programmes results seemed a bit more accurate than the 2nd.
                    Is it easy for a complete computer idiot to use? Might have to invest looks great fun.
                    You should post the commentary for the Wlad/Vitaliv Ali fights sure they would be popular lol
                    Here, check them out yourself. I uploaded the manuals for both so anyone wanting to get a feel for them could download.

                    http://www.**********.com/?d=0N1OC2YO

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                    • Rosseboi
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                      #60
                      Running meaningless statistics through a computer is like rampant ************ without sex. It proves nothing.

                      Pitting Ali against Vitali is like putting Mosley against Dawson and citing a Mosley win through his 'statistics' / accomplishments.

                      I had seriously hoped a few people would have been a little more level headed here. I can understand historic romantacism, even favouratism but when logic gets thrown out of the window it annoys me.

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