who had the better carrer/story? B-hop or Jones?

[mickey malone]

You can't be serious. Roy Jones is washed up. He hasn't beat a credible fighter since the first Tarver fight, which many don't believe he deserved to win.

Of course I am.....
I answered the question....
Hopkins won't be able to cope with Jones's style when he's 50...
Just the way it is.....
Granted.... Hopkins can beat the fighters Jones can't.... But, lets face it.... Styles make fights, and Jones DOES have that particular style that B/Hop simply cannot deal with...
The reason being... He's devoid of counters, which is what Hopkins is all about....
Hopkins has more resolve.... That's my moniker...

[mickey malone]

Probably Hopkins, he's had a better career (never really been dominated in any fights). I think Prime Jones was the better fighter though. Jones should have called it a day a while ago. He's only making things worse for himself!

Who told Tyson to say that?????
Personally, I prefer his originals...
Vs Biggs: "I had him in the corner & threw some powerful body shots... He started making womanly gestures & squealing like a girl.... Jeeeeees,! Not even my wife makes noises like that!" (Quote: By Mike Tyson while married to Robbing Gibbons)

TYSON: UN EDITED.....

[Obama]

Of course I am.....
I answered the question....
Hopkins won't be able to cope with Jones's style when he's 50...
Just the way it is.....
Granted.... Hopkins can beat the fighters Jones can't.... But, lets face it.... Styles make fights, and Jones DOES have that particular style that B/Hop simply cannot deal with...
The reason being... He's devoid of counters, which is what Hopkins is all about....
Hopkins has more resolve.... That's my moniker...

You'd simply just be wrong. Jones' reflexes are shot. Hopkins will be the aggressor as he was in the first fight, and he will land this time around guaranteed. Also, he's 44. And right NOW, he ****s Jones.

[TredKiller]

You'd simply just be wrong. Jones' reflexes are shot. Hopkins will be the aggressor as he was in the first fight, and he will land this time around guaranteed. Also, he's 44. And right NOW, he ****s Jones.

true, very true,

but i think he meant prime for prime

[Obama]

true, very true,

but i think he meant prime for prime

Pretty sure he means right now...

[LondonRingRules]

Lot of holes there. Echols wasn't undefeated, Oscar wasn't past it, then plenty of other guys that were past it aren't listed as past it. Not to mention, you haven't even listed all the credible opponents each fighter beat. But I digress...

story: B-Hop
resume: B-Hop
paper accomplishments: RJJ
fighting style: RJJ more spectacular, B-Hop more effective to withstand the test of time

** Hey, Mugsy, cong**** on finally picking a Philly fighter actually using a Philly shell defense.

Credit where credit is due, but, alas, as is your pattern, any detailed analysis quickly falls into hazy logic and intellectual torpor.

Popsy never dominated divisions and p4p lists like Roy did. Roy at one time had a significant push by mainstream insiders, press, and public at large as the best fighter ever. He had to have been the Ring #1 for 90% of the time between 94-03.

Popsy never entered the top p4p 10 until half way through his title run, and only got to be #1 for 2 years after Roy was dethroned by Tarver. Moreover, Roy beat the p4p #1 in a straight up fight to earn his status, beat in this case being a euphemism for clowning Toney in one of the most embarrassing shutdowns of a top fighter in history.

Career record: 53-5, 39 KO vs 49-5-1, 32 KO---Advantage Roy.
Title record: 23-4 vs 21-3-1-------Advantage Roy.
Record against HOFers: 5-1 vs 3-2-----Advantage Roy.
Division titles: 4-2-------Advantage Roy.
Years as majority unified champ(3 of 4 belts minimum): 6 vs 4------Advantage Roy.
Maximum weight fought above debut weight: 39 vs -3 --------Advantage Roy.
3 best prime opponents beat: Popkins, Toney, Ruiz vs Johnson, Tito, Pavlik--------Advantage Roy.
Head to head ring results: 1 vs 0---------Advantage Roy.
KO losses: 2 vs 0-------Advantage Popsy.
3 best prime bigger men beat: Toney, Hill, Ruiz vs Zipp0---------Advantage Roy.
HBO headliner: ------------Advantage Roy.
Ring earning$: ----------Advantage Roy.
HBO announcer: ----------Advantage Roy.
Number of dog champions: --------Advantage Roy.

Alright now, enough of that. We, not you, already knew the picture. Yeah, looks like Roy's paper accomplishments have papered Popsy into a well preserved, well deserved mummy with enough paper left over for your minder to keep you in wipes for your lifetime.

I tell you Mugsy, you're more fun than a barrel of circus clowns.......

[TredKiller]

** Hey, Mugsy, cong**** on finally picking a Philly fighter actually using a Philly shell defense.

Credit where credit is due, but, alas, as is your pattern, any detailed analysis quickly falls into hazy logic and intellectual torpor.

Popsy never dominated divisions and p4p lists like Roy did. Roy at one time had a significant push by mainstream insiders, press, and public at large as the best fighter ever. He had to have been the Ring #1 for 90% of the time between 94-03.

Popsy never entered the top p4p 10 until half way through his title run, and only got to be #1 for 2 years after Roy was dethroned by Tarver. Moreover, Roy beat the p4p #1 in a straight up fight to earn his status, beat in this case being a euphemism for clowning Toney in one of the most embarrassing shutdowns of a top fighter in history.

Career record: 53-5, 39 KO vs 49-5-1, 32 KO---Advantage Roy.
Title record: 23-4 vs 21-3-1-------Advantage Roy.
Record against HOFers: 5-1 vs 3-2-----Advantage Roy.
Division titles: 4-2-------Advantage Roy.
Years as majority unified champ(3 of 4 belts minimum): 6 vs 4------Advantage Roy.
Maximum weight fought above debut weight: 39 vs -3 --------Advantage Roy.
3 best prime opponents beat: Popkins, Toney, Ruiz vs Johnson, Tito, Pavlik--------Advantage Roy.
Head to head ring results: 1 vs 0---------Advantage Roy.
KO losses: 2 vs 0-------Advantage Popsy.
3 best prime bigger men beat: Toney, Hill, Ruiz vs Zipp0---------Advantage Roy.
HBO headliner: ------------Advantage Roy.
Ring earning$: ----------Advantage Roy.
HBO announcer: ----------Advantage Roy.Number of dog champions: --------Advantage Roy.

Alright now, enough of that. We, not you, already knew the picture. Yeah, looks like Roy's paper accomplishments have papered Popsy into a well preserved, well deserved mummy with enough paper left over for your minder to keep you in wipes for your lifetime.

I tell you Mugsy, you're more fun than a barrel of circus clowns.......

B-hop dominated the MW division when he was undisputed champ.

HBO never took to B-hop, its not his fault, its jus the damn HBO.

[Obama]

Does this clown realize B-Hop took #1 p4p before Roy got beat by Tarver? Hopkins took it sometime after he beat Trinidad, then Roy took it back after he beat Ruiz, but that was short lived.

[BEEHOP]

hopkins, if jones would have retired 6 years ago then maybe RJJ

[JAB5239]

Hopkins has the better career,he has never been dominated,he was the underdog on 3 occations that I'm aware of and he's never been stopped!!Plus he is the best defensive fighter of the last 2 decades!!

Hop was not better defensively than Pernell and probably not Floyd.