Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
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Is Wlad an All Time Great Heavyweight?
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Is Wlad an ATG....
The answer is...... NEARLY.... Hasn't got far to go... Regards haters, YES YES YES he is....
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Originally posted by mr.crust View PostWlad is the best of his era....shame about the era.
i swear reading some threads in here just give me a headache. People regard Joe Louis to be the ATG heavyweight, for his amazing knockout power, which is prob. a little more than the no .2, which is Ali, and if you dont know why he's there, u need to quit talking about boxing. these guys don't even compare to the opposition Wlad faces in terms of boxing quality.
and then Wlad is supposed to top them all.. granted, Wlad is really good, athletic, he knows how to work with his jab, he's fast with the jab, accurate, he knows how to stay out of range from the opponent.
but he has flaws. he wont be able to deal with a guy that can infight good enough. Frasier would've busted him up eventually, Foreman would've had him for dinner with his power (remember, Foreman made big permanent dents in 200lbs heavybags), Tyson.. dont even need to talk about that, too much damn speed for him, Holmes had too much aggression and boxing ability, he'd have given him trouble, Ali would've outspeeded him somehow.
And Joe Louis? read up about him (know what the "bum of the month club" is) he had awesome power, Primo Carnera was just as big as Wlad...
dude.. shame on you, Wlad's good, but there were a lot of better HW's. i go with the top 50.
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Originally posted by knn View PostOH NOW IT'S NOT ABOUT KOs but just a few sentences ago you write about Klitschko "been KO'd three times like a *****." Look, who's talking, hater. Why do nearly all Ali fans show their ugly hater face within a few sentences?
And by the way: That is also another typical statement of Ali fans "Boxing is not about KOs, it's about heart" or "Ali had greater ringmanship" or similar nonsense. I never saw "Heart" on scorecards and there is no "Winner by Ringmanship".
1) So you think the only way to beat Wlad or Vitali is by outweighing them or being as tall as them?
2) Weight and height are all important but you do not think reach is a factor in the slightest? I ask that because reach is never mentioned in your stats.
3) Would you say that a fighter who KO's opponents in 3 rounds or less would be a more powerful puncher than one who knocks out opponents in later rounds?
4) Would you call a fighter who has a dozen KO's in 160 fights a featherfist?
5) Do you think big punchers are born or made?
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View PostWlad would have very little trouble in taking care of Lennox Lewis, Wlad would have a field day with the Canadian and i think he would put Lewis to sleep around the 4th round with a big right-hand bomb
You are talking about a prime Lennox Lewis?
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Originally posted by Dubious-Dutch View PostWlad has Knocked out more opponents in heavyweight world titles (200+ lbs) than Joe Louis, Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson or Rocky Marciano.
He has a higher KO ratio than Mike Tyson.
He has also won more world title fights than Evander Holyfield.
Is one of the heavies (with 50+ fights) with the least unavenged losses ever.
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lennox punched vitalis eye out & stopped him before the end of the sixth.I don't care if vitali was winning.fights are 12 rounds not 5& a half.lennox never lost to bums like puritty & sanders & brewster wouldn't last 3 rounds with lewis.Rahman got dropped by sanders twice got off the canvas to knockout sanders.his next fight he beat lewis.wlad had the same opportunity as Rahman.beat sanders & get a title shot at lewis.he couldn't make it out of the 2nd after 4 knockdowns.davarryl wiiliams lost a controversial split decision after being knocked down.lewis stares at williamson & he passed out.anybody on this site who thinks wlad is on par with lewis is dillusional.he couldn't carry lewis jockstrap.
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I think lewis, Tyson & Holyfield beat Ali.different eras completely.the older guys were smaller but went 15 HARD rounds,had way more heart,they all fought each other,no politics,no ducking,fought regularily.todays heavyweights wouldn't last long in that era.the klits run out of steam by the 8 & 9 but would have to go another5 or 6 rounds.they wouldn't last.even lewis would gave trouble but smaller guys like Byrd,Holyfield would be the 2 guys who would have done well back then because of their conditioning.Holyfield in his prime beats all of them including Ali,Frazier,Liston,etc.
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Originally posted by joe strong View Postlennox punched vitalis eye out & stopped him before the end of the sixth.I don't care if vitali was winning.fights are 12 rounds not 5& a half.lennox never lost to bums like puritty & sanders & brewster wouldn't last 3 rounds with lewis.Rahman got dropped by sanders twice got off the canvas to knockout sanders.his next fight he beat lewis.wlad had the same opportunity as Rahman.beat sanders & get a title shot at lewis.he couldn't make it out of the 2nd after 4 knockdowns.davarryl wiiliams lost a controversial split decision after being knocked down.lewis stares at williamson & he passed out.anybody on this site who thinks wlad is on par with lewis is dillusional.he couldn't carry lewis jockstrap.
Wlad's 'nobodies' Cvnt though....
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Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View PostPlease tell me 30 HWs greater than Wlad, right now.
And who's the guy claiming Lennox Lewis was 220 in his prime?
Probably best performance of Lewis career was Ruddock when he was 220 odd so not totally out there to say he was at prime at 220 odd.
BTW Jim, Tunney or whatever if you are going to quote me don't do it out of context old son.
Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View PostAre you serious? Everyone knows that the worst thing in the world to be in the U.S is a white maleOriginally posted by Jim Jeffries View PostI'm the racist
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