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The Kid Chocolate vs Arguello fight would have been one for the ages.
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Rican, Gomez was a Great super-bantamweight, I think the greatest of all time. But Sanchez handled him with great ease, even punishing him in their fight. So it is hard for me to consider him with the all time greats at FW. Still a fantastic fighter though. Good mention.Comment
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Just out of curiosity, what made you come up with these conclusions? How would the FW version of Pac stop Armtsrong due to too much punishment?
He lost his first ever fight by KO when he was a wee little teen at BW or SBW and was then never stopped and showed one of the toughest chins to that point in history until he was way past it fighting a prime 120-10, or something like that, champ Fritzie Zivic at WW after a very long run as champ.
There were many bigger, better fighters than Pac that couldn't get close to stopping him but the FW version of Pac does? Man, like I said yesterday, this forum is going batty.
Answer this at least. How does Pac even beat a guy that would drive him backwards and break him down inside when he had no clue about fighting backwards and is not a good inside fighter? Let alone stop him! At his FW peak Armstrong was not only never close to being stopped, he was hardly ever close to losing at all.
A guy that would be on top of Pac all fifteen, twelve rounds from go to woe that gives you no room to throw big bombs, ****ing away at his body and head non stop.....
Pac couldn't box at FW to save himself. He didn't move well. He stood in front and a guy like Armstrong would have a field day because he would not have to try and get in, as PAc had a non existent jab and right hand, nor would he take much punishment on the way in at all. Stop Armstrong? C'mon....Last edited by BennyST; 05-12-2009, 12:15 AM.Comment
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This is the kind of classic post that shows you can knock any fighter in history by focusing on a very few small points. Gibo, you could also say that he beat an undefeated Gomez who was only fighting, quite literally, a few pounds away at SBW. Not much difference at all. Really, basically in the same weight class.
Danny Lopez lost during his great undefeated title reign. He was fighting nearly as good as ever. He had just beaten down Mike Ayala in that great fight and had been on his best string of wins in his career. No one ever found Lopez easy. He was one of the toughest, most determined fighters in history, bar none.
Well, while you say an easy Lopez, I would say a Lopez that had had a string of wins that included a knockout of the great Ruben Olivares, an undefeated Sean O'Grady, revenging one of his only losses to Gomez (Octavio) by vicious KO, beating the great Art Hafey, David Kotey, and undefeated Roberto Castanon, the aforementioned Ayala, and Chucho Castillo. He beat all of these guys in a row without a loss, among other fine contenders, until he ran into Sanchez, upon which he lost by KO twice. That's seriously impressive.
I don't think anyone could ever say he is overrated with any sense of seriousness. By the freakishly young age of twenty three he had only lost one quite controversial fight, from what I understand anyway, by SD very early on as a young teenager. Anyway, he went on to have a title run of nine straight defenses including his great title winning KO of Lopez as well as a return bout, and also beat, among others, Ruben Castillo (had only lost one fight in over forty to the great Arguello), an undefeated Azumah Nelson, an undefeated Wilfredo Gomez, an undefeated Patrick Ford (who happened to be a six foot FW with a massive reach advantage of over six inches!), the great Juan LaPorte who had also only lost one fight, the aforementioned Roberto Castanon who's only loss to that point was to Lopez, along with the fine contender Nicky Perez.
Now, as to the Nelson fight, if you have seen it, it is quite likely that Nelson would have beaten any other FW in the world on the same night, or on any other night in fact. Actually, he did! Nelson was simply a fighting machine, massively underrated. The fact he was the only ever fighter to knock Nelson out, who was without a doubt one of the toughest fighters to ever lace up gloves, speaks for itself. This is withstanding the fact that very soon after the loss Nelson won the title by destroying W. Gomez and going undefeated across two weight divisions for very close to ten years! The only reason he lost was because he jumped up in weight to fight a young, prime LW Pernell Whitaker by the time he himself was well past thirty years of age and was about the only guy to not look foolish and out of his league doing so. Huge win for Sanchez by any stretch.
All of this by 23.Comment
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