Prime Floyd Mayweather jr. vs. prime 'Battling' Nelson @ 135. Who takes it???

[skyler]

you think you're so fucking funny with your ridiculous insults that are always related to ****sexuality. You are a pompous nerd who is probably a closet ****, you can never seem to insult anyone without connecting it to ****sexuality.

I dont always favour modern fighters, i think SRR, Henry Armstrong, Ali, Liston would knock the daylights out of many if not all the fighters in their weight classes if they were fighting today, but there is such a disparity in skill level between Battling "i block punches with my face" Nelson and Floyd Mayweather.... Mayweather would absolutely rip him apart with blistering combos and avoid whatever Nelson threw back, it would look a lot similar to the gatti fight

I agree, but the glove size and the number of rounds would be a huge factor in this fight.

[JAB5239]

Mayweather would absolutely rip him apart with blistering combos and avoid whatever Nelson threw back, it would look a lot similar to the gatti fight

Who is Mayweather in the big picture compared to Gans, Corbett, McGovern and Attell? What do you know of these fighters and why don't you think they're on the same level as Floyd and others? Considering these guys are all time greats a Gatti comparison is absurd. If you really know what you're talking about here, enlighten us. If your argument is valid I will be the first to give you props. Right now you just sound like a boxrec guy who thinks the best of today are better than era's past, but you give no proof.

[KostyaTszyu44]

Who is Mayweather in the big picture compared to Gans, Corbett, McGovern and Attell What do you know of these fighters and why don't you think they're on the same level as Floyd and others? Considering these guys are all time greats a Gatti comparison is absurd. If you really know what you're talking about here, enlighten us. If your argument is valid I will be the first to give you props. Right now you just sound like a boxrec guy who thinks the best of today are better than era's past, but you give no proof.

mayweather is an ATG on the same level as those guys, with more refined skills

i know those guys were tough but primitive skillwise

skillwise, nelson can be compared to gatti, gans is much better skillwise than a guy like gatti, but not as developed and refined as a guy like floyd- gans was a pretty good fighter and an ATG, Nelson was a tough sonofabitch who had pretty much no skills

i dont think fighters of today are better than all eras past, just the pre 20's guys who were tough and game but very lacking in skills

skills were built on and evolved more in the 30's and 40's and and we got superb fighters like robinson, louis, pep, charles, walcott etc who had skills just as good as todays fighters- i would favour those guys over many modern fighters because their skills were developed and refined, the elite guys of today are just about on par with those guys as far as skills go

[talip bin osman]

Who is Mayweather in the big picture compared to Gans, Corbett, McGovern and Attell? What do you know of these fighters and why don't you think they're on the same level as Floyd and others? Considering these guys are all time greats a Gatti comparison is absurd. If you really know what you're talking about here, enlighten us. If your argument is valid I will be the first to give you props. Right now you just sound like a boxrec guy who thinks the best of today are better than era's past, but you give no proof.

hey jab!

educate me with this old skool rules man... will u pls?

[KostyaTszyu44]

bottom line is:

you think nelson beats floyd, you are an idiot

and i wasnt comparing gans to gatti, i compared nelson to gatti

[JmtRyan]

50 rounds?! holy ****, floyd would have no chance in a 50 round fight, he would have faced nothing like it before, that is Nelsons terroritory. Though to be fair, floyd would probably batter him round the ring for like 30-40 rounds.

[JAB5239]

bottom line is:

you think nelson beats floyd, you are an idiot

and i wasnt comparing gans to gatti, i compared nelson to gatti

Bottom line is, you have no clue what you're talking about. If you did you would man up and tell me why Floyd "would knock all these guys out on the same night". Im looking for an educated response, all you have to fall back on are insults.

If you read my posts you would see why I picked Nelson under the guidlines specified. You would have also read how I think they would have done under modern rules. I can argue these points because not only am I familiar with the fighters and their history, but the era we are debating. Obviously you are not or you would tell us how you came to your conclussion instead of just repeating how Floyd would knock him out.

Now, who's the real idiot here, the guy comparing a fighter who is considered an all time great and beat other all time greats, or the guy comparing him to Gatti?

You obviously base your opinion on boxrec and guess work. Me? Im no expert, but I have a very sound idea what Im talking about. Get back to us when you can form an argument as to how and why instead just saying because.

[JAB5239]

hey jab!

educate me with this old skool rules man... will u pls?

Its pretty simple my man. We're talking 4oz gloves, more than twice the rounds a modern boxer is use to and alot more dirty fighting than any fighter today is use to. On top of that, if there was a knockdown there was no nuetral corner rule which mean a fighter could stand over and hit the man he knocked down as soon as he tried to get up. Take all this into consideration and Floyds brittle hands and its not hard to imagine he would have problems. Under todays rules, its a different story. But thats not what we're talking about. and anybody who thinks fighters from the past were just wild swinging cavemen is uneducated on the topic. I won't even get into how tough these men had to be and why during the era they fought in, but if you PM me I'd be happy to direct you to some excellent links that explain it better than I ever could.

[talip bin osman]

Who is Mayweather in the big picture compared to Gans, Corbett, McGovern and Attell? What do you know of these fighters and why don't you think they're on the same level as Floyd and others? Considering these guys are all time greats a Gatti comparison is absurd. If you really know what you're talking about here, enlighten us. If your argument is valid I will be the first to give you props. Right now you just sound like a boxrec guy who thinks the best of today are better than era's past, but you give no proof.

Its pretty simple my man. We're talking 4oz gloves, more than twice the rounds a modern boxer is use to and alot more dirty fighting than any fighter today is use to. On top of that, if there was a knockdown there was no nuetral corner rule which mean a fighter could stand over and hit the man he knocked down as soon as he tried to get up. Take all this into consideration and Floyds brittle hands and its not hard to imagine he would have problems. Under todays rules, its a different story. But thats not what we're talking about. and anybody who thinks fighters from the past were just wild swinging cavemen is uneducated on the topic. I won't even get into how tough these men had to be and why during the era they fought in, but if you PM me I'd be happy to direct you to some excellent links that explain it better than I ever could.

the ref wont stop a fighter hitting his foe trying to get up after he knocked him down? these old rules make the mma look like kidstuff then...

these lads who fought under these rules must have a great deal of stamina then, if it was like this for 50 rounds...

floyd might win if he finishes off nelson early, but i doubt he has the power to do that in the early goings...

damn, battling nelson must be one tough fighter then!

[KostyaTszyu44]

Bottom line is, you have no clue what you're talking about. If you did you would man up and tell me why Floyd "would knock all these guys out on the same night". Im looking for an educated response, all you have to fall back on are insults.

If you read my posts you would see why I picked Nelson under the guidlines specified. You would have also read how I think they would have done under modern rules. I can argue these points because not only am I familiar with the fighters and their history, but the era we are debating. Obviously you are not or you would tell us how you came to your conclussion instead of just repeating how Floyd would knock him out.

Now, who's the real idiot here, the guy comparing a fighter who is considered an all time great and beat other all time greats, or the guy comparing him to Gatti?

You obviously base your opinion on boxrec and guess work. Me? Im no expert, but I have a very sound idea what Im talking about. Get back to us when you can form an argument as to how and why instead just saying because.

You want to know why Floyd would KO Nelson????

Okay:

.Dramatic Speed Advantage
.Power advantage
.Skill advantage
.Accuracy
.Footwork

Floyd has trained with modern techniques and programs, things such as weights, better roadwork (including things like sprinting), better knowledge of nutrition, more evolved skills etc....

You obviously aren't a boxer if you dont realise these things. Put two fighters in the ring (or the street for that matter): One who has trained with modern techniques and is supremely skilled, and one who had absolutely zero skills(nelson) and who trained doing primitive things like lifting furniture, and who had no idea of proper nutrition- and thats another thing, floyd would be much naturally bigger and stronger than nelson, floyd had to eat well and train hard to weigh 135, plus he had a day to rehydrate. Nelson probably naturally weighed only a little bit more than that, if he trained properly today it is very possible he could have been a featherweight or even lower.

Look seriously, you have never boxed in your life or at least haven't been down to the gym for a while, you dont realise that dramatic skill and physical advantages are pretty much impossible to overcome, Nelson wouldnt last past the 4th-5th round....Toughness only gets you so far

Gans was a much better boxer than Nelson, and his ring smarts were good for his time, he would last a bit longer vs Floyd, but Floyd would just be so much quicker, stonger, more accurate....You have to realise this