Who Can Handle Vitali in the Historical Pantheon?

[Chase8400]

"Who can handle Vitali in the historical pantheon?" is an implicit question of who is better: Vitali or X. I think my response is very logical since practically ever reason given for picking Vitali starts with "Vitali is much bigger": Hence my response that unlike some I'm not a size whore. Who looks foolish? The person who asks "who's bigger?" or the person who asks "who's better?"? Hmmm? Unless, of course, you are someone who subscribes to the tenent that "bigger equals better" in which case that makes you a "size whore" ie. someone who is size obsessed and uses it as their primary criterion in picking matchups.

Poet

No, the title pretty much speaks for itself. 'Who can handle Vitali' , not: 'Who is better than Vitali'. There's no underlying message. Don't defend your lackadistical response to my post. Just take the ass whippin' and move on.

[ßringer]

I actually am a big Dempsey fan and have a fairly close relation to him that I don't care to duscuss at this time. While Jack had a great record against larger fighters, none of them were anywhere near Klitschko's caliber. They were very slow clubbers who who were nowhere near as coordinated and certainly didn't possess a defense like Vitali. Dempsey was a killer puncher P4P but is simply too one dimentional and small to beat VK. He would no doubt be knocked out.

You probably think I'm just a blinded biased idiot because Vitali is in my sig, but that couldn't be further from the truth. Sorry to bust a bubble about Dempsey since it appears that we both love the guy, but that is the truth coming in the form of my boxing-savy opinion.

While I respect your opinion, my opinion remains unchanged.

I think Dempsey had the power, the skill, and the know-how to work a giant like Vitali over. Granted Fulton and Willard were rather sluggish, but Vitali isn't exactly greased lightning in there either. And he slows down even more if you can work him to the body well.

Which is why I also pegged Frazier to work him over.

[Chase8400]

While I respect your opinion, my opinion remains unchanged.

I think Dempsey had the power, the skill, and the know-how to work a giant like Vitali over. Granted Fulton and Willard were rather sluggish, but Vitali isn't exactly greased lightning in there either. And he slows down even more if you can work him to the body well.

Which is why I also pegged Frazier to work him over.

Hey , yo.

I can definitely respect that reponse.

We will never know for sure so our opinions are all we have. I can certainly see why you would harvest yours. Dempsey was one hell of a fighter.

Keep up the objective posting.

[StarshipTrooper]

Let me start by saying , hahahahaha, cute stuff from you. (no serious disrespect)

****y Ryan(first guy to beat Bryan Neilson)
Herbie Hyde
Chris Byrd(Yes he beat him. Don't be ******)
Orlin Norris
Larry Donald
Kirk Johnson
Corrie Sanders(in his prime enough to beat Wladimir)
Danny Williams
Sam Peter
Juan Gomez(depends on who you as before or after the fight)

Is that enough for you?

Aside from Byrd, who was as featherfisted a Heavyweight as I've ever seen, do you know what all the rest of those fighters had in common? They ALL stunk and only the sad state of the Heavyweight division in recent years enabled them to be considered "contenders".

Being good and in their prime is subject to opinion though. I'm not too sure you are grasping that, however.

Opinions are like *******s: The wrong people have them and they're all full of shlt.

He was 37. Same age as calzaghe for the Jones fight. Who was also from the UK and was also dominant in his class and was also NOT past his prime. This is opinion, except you have nothing but your opinion backing you up.

Aside from the fact that Calzaghe's country of origin is irrelivent, Calzaghe was most certainly NOT still in his prime. Ask any boxing historian or any other boxing expert for that matter whether a 37 year old fighter is still in his prime and aside from the odd kook they will tell you "NO". It's common sense: Athletes are NOT as good at 37 as they are at 27.

Fair enough. Why don't you PROVE to me that Lennox was past his best when he faced Vitali so that I may KNOW.

CHASE, lol

Apart from common sense that one is not in-prime at 37 you could try watching some of Lennox's later fights and comparing them to, say, the Lennox that dismantled Michael Grant.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

No, the title pretty much speaks for itself. 'Who can handle Vitali' , not: 'Who is better than Vitali'. There's no underlying message. Don't defend your lackadistical response to my post. Just take the ass whippin' and move on.

Maybe some remedial English lessons may help your lack of comprehension to the implications of your own posts. Just take your *****-slapping and move on.

Poet

[ßringer]

And here I thought you guys in the History section were above verbal abuse!

[StarshipTrooper]

And here I thought you guys in the History section were above verbal abuse!

Who? Me? LOL!

Poet

[ßringer]

Who? Me? LOL!

Poet

Everyone.

I've always been a fan of this section, but I pretty much kept out of the conversations because I'm relatively young despite being a fan of the sport for 10 years.

I'm versed on some of the older fighters, but not others. It's hard to find good quality videos, you know?

But everytime I browsed I always saw people peacefully disagreeing. I had no idea you guys like to sling **** from time to time.

I also always wondered this : How do you keep the NSB crowd at bay? I figured most of those morons would've flooded tihs place by now and done the revisionist historian thing.

[BattlingNelson]

And here I thought you guys in the History section were above verbal abuse!

The bitchslapping in here is often slightly more sophisticated than on NSB.


But sometimes you might think you were in the dome.....

you're a biased idiot...marciao, dempsey and tunney beat vitali, but evander doesnt? wtf is your problem with evander? you're a ****ing ******

[StarshipTrooper]

Everyone.

I've always been a fan of this section, but I pretty much kept out of the conversations because I'm relatively young despite being a fan of the sport for 10 years.

I'm versed on some of the older fighters, but not others. It's hard to find good quality videos, you know?

But everytime I browsed I always saw people peacefully disagreeing. I had no idea you guys like to sling **** from time to time.

I also always wondered this : How do you keep the NSB crowd at bay? I figured most of those morons would've flooded tihs place by now and done the revisionist historian thing.

Most of the NSB posters don't stand a chance against us LOL! I've slapped a few around in my time. I go over there to post once in a while too. Some of them hate me for it.

Poet