Harry Greb shadowboxing

[TheGreatA]

oh wow, you pick one bad scene from the Hopkins fight
i suggest you actually watch Joe Calzaghe's fights especially against kessler and Jones
Tremendous technique, adaptability and handspeed

You're an idiot
Hope this helps

I have seen nearly every fight of Joe's, even his early ones. He punches in a very unorthodox way but it works for him.


vs Kessler


vs Jones

[The_One77]

All you have to do is compare Greb and Calzaghe shadowbox
Calzaghe unlike Greb actually goes in a stance, throws jabs, combinations, bobs and weaves between combinations etc etc
He doesnt just flail his arms and goes round in circles without technique. Yes joe sometimes slaps but he has awesome techqiue and the correct fundamentals to go with it.

The comparison is ludicrous

[TheGreatA]

All you have to do is compare Greb and Calzaghe shadowbox
Calzaghe unlike Greb actually goes in a stance, throws jabs, combinations, bobs and weaves between combinations etc etc
He doesnt just flail his arms and goes round in circles without technique. Yes joe sometimes slaps but he has awesome techqiue and the correct fundamentals to go with it.

The comparison is ludicrous

[res]

LMAO at the people trying to justify Harry greb being so sloppy, Ive honestly seen amateurs still in school with better techique than this guy.
Yes, he paved the way for fighters such as Joe Louis and Jersey joe Walcott but to say Greb or any other one of these old time fighters are as good as fighters today is ridiculous.

Bias to old timers never ceases to amaze me honestly

Isn't this entire post nothing but the expression of a bias?

[res]

Let's just do a little inference.

Langford, for example, was not praised tremendously for his technical skill while Greb was. We have footage of Langford and he certainly does not look as bad as Greb did while clowning around in that footage. Therefore it is safe to say that Greb didn't look like this either when he was seriously fighting.


How in the world do you think Harry Greb beat Gene Tunney when Tunney was the bigger man if he was so primitive?!

Here is a NY Times reporter talking about the fight


“Tunney tried with every ounce of strength and every trick of the trade to offset the speed and remarkable ability of his rival. But the defending champion could find no defense for the rain of blows which met him at every turn.”

We have to remember that this was an era of showbusiness, a Boxer being shot in his training camp would be just as likely to clown for the camera as to do anything else.

[Kid McCoy]

Let's just do a little inference.

Langford, for example, was not praised tremendously for his technical skill while Greb was. We have footage of Langford and he certainly does not look as bad as Greb did while clowning around in that footage. Therefore it is safe to say that Greb didn't look like this either when he was seriously fighting.

Just imagine if 50 years from now the only footage of PBF was 20 seconds of his tussle with Big Show. All the fanboys of 2059's #1 p4p baby would be queuing up to slaughter him for lacking skill and technique, and chortling at the idea of Floyd lasting more than 2 rounds against modern day fighters.

[them_apples]

I have seen nearly every fight of Joe's, even his early ones. He punches in a very unorthodox way but it works for him.


vs Kessler


vs Jones

I'm a notorious Calzaghe hater (ask anyone), the guy does seem sort of awkward and uncoordinated ( i know he slaps 100 times per round) but he still isn't anywhere near as bad as what that Greb video is showing. that's fricken aweful. If you are calling him great for what he was able to accomplish during his time, then i'm all for it. If you think this guy is going to beat on the Ray Leonards, Durans and Pacquiaos of our time though, I most certainly don't agree.

[The_One77]

Still think there is no difference between the 2 fighters shadowboxing?

Harry Greb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFItT...eature=related

Joe Calzaghe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAmalEm3DYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOyy...eature=related

One looks like a world class boxer and the other looks like a mental patient flinging his arms

[them_apples]

Still think there is no difference between the 2 fighters shadowboxing?

Harry Greb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFItT...eature=related

Joe Calzaghe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAmalEm3DYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOyy...eature=related

One looks like a world class boxer and the other looks like a mental patient flinging his arms

Calzaghe looks pretty ******ed to, the only reason he won his last 2 fights was by out slapping the older fighters.

Even so, I agree that Calzaghe in terms of skill is in another world than Harry Greb.

[The_One77]

Calzaghe looks pretty ******ed to, the only reason he won his last 2 fights was by out slapping the older fighters.

Even so, I agree that Calzaghe in terms of skill is in another world than Harry Greb.

That "old fighter" happens to be America's best and one of the best P4P fighters on the planet