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    I've been looking through some recent history lately and watching some of the old, classic fights and I noticed a guy that came up a number of times as an opponent against some of the truly great fighters of all time. He lost every fight against these guys, obviously, but he fought so many of them. He was not what you would call a great fighter, but maybe he was a great test for a fighter.

    I figure this guy must have been the perfect test for a prospect. A decent record, fought good opponents and could actually fight. He may very well be the greatest test fighter ever! The lost of guys he fought is staggering to say the least. If he had beaten each of them he may very well be the best of all time.

    Marvin Hagler
    Thomas Hearns
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Michael Nunn
    Virgil Hill
    Fred Hutchings
    Caveman Lee
    Angel Garcia

    Not too bad a list of fighters. If ever I was a journeyman fighter I would want to say I fought the best and only the best.

    C'mon folks, let's here the greatest losing opponents? Let's see of we can top that resume for being beaten!

  • #2
    Juarez and Zab are fast becomin these guys. Rocky lost to Soto, MAB x2, and JMM. Zab got it from KT, Spinks, PBF, Cotto, and Clottey. I really don't see them as any more than journeymen at this point even if they were once at the star level.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BennyST View Post


      I've been looking through some recent history lately and watching some of the old, classic fights and I noticed a guy that came up a number of times as an opponent against some of the truly great fighters of all time. He lost every fight against these guys, obviously, but he fought so many of them. He was not what you would call a great fighter, but maybe he was a great test for a fighter.

      I figure this guy must have been the perfect test for a prospect. A decent record, fought good opponents and could actually fight. He may very well be the greatest test fighter ever! The lost of guys he fought is staggering to say the least. If he had beaten each of them he may very well be the best of all time.

      Marvin Hagler
      Thomas Hearns
      Sugar Ray Leonard
      Michael Nunn
      Virgil Hill
      Fred Hutchings
      Caveman Lee
      Angel Garcia

      Not too bad a list of fighters. If ever I was a journeyman fighter I would want to say I fought the best and only the best.

      C'mon folks, let's here the greatest losing opponents? Let's see of we can top that resume for being beaten!
      Marion Wilson

      Oliver McCall
      Chazz Witherspoon
      Tony Thompson
      Hasim Rahman
      Oleg Maskaev
      Derrick Jefferson
      Ezra Sellers
      Larry Donald
      David Izon
      Francois Botha
      Tyrell Biggs
      Andrew Golota
      Ray Mercer
      Shannon Briggs
      Kirk Johnson
      Orlin Norris
      Ike Ibeabuchi
      Carl Williams
      Greg Page

      Ken Lakusta

      Larry Holmes
      David Tua
      Francois Botha
      George Foreman
      Tommy Morrison
      Pierre Coetzer
      Razor Ruddock
      Michael Dokes
      Frank Bruno
      Trevor Berbick

      Sanderline Williams

      James Toney x2
      Gerald McClellan
      Reggie Johnson
      Nigel Benn
      Merqui Sosa
      Frank Tate
      Iran Barkley
      Herol Graham
      Lindell Holmes
      Last edited by Burning Desire; 02-14-2009, 11:48 AM.

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      • #4
        Carl Thompson, his fight against Rothmann was one of the greatest boxing comebacks.

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        • #5
          George "Scrap Iron" Johnson

          Joe Frazier
          George Foreman
          Sonny Liston
          Ron Lyle
          Joe Bugner
          Thad Spencer
          Eddie Machen
          Jerry Quarry X 3
          Scott LeDoux
          Duane Bobick

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          • #6
            George Chuvalo:

            Muhammad Ali
            George Foreman
            Joe Frazier
            Floyd Patterson
            Ernie Terrell
            Oscar Bonavena
            Zora Folley
            Bob Baker
            Jimmy Ellis
            Buster Mathis
            Pete Rademacher


            Fireman Jim Flynn:

            Jack Johnson
            Sam Langford
            Jack Dempsey
            Tommy Burns
            Fred Fulton
            Battling Levinsky
            Gunboat Smith
            Luther McCarty
            Jack Dillon
            Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
            Jack Root
            Al Kaufmann

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            • #7
              Jorge Castro has a big record and has been beaten by a lot of good/great fighters. He has also done his fair share of winning!

              Roy Jones
              Terry Norris
              Roberto Duran
              Juan Carlos Gomez
              Vassiliy Jirov
              Paul Briggs

              The man has been beaten everywhere from Light Middleweight to Cruiserweight with a career than spanned nearly 20 years!

              He should have lost to John David Jackson too, but his great heart and determination pulled him out of trouble and he landed that sweet home run shot to get the awesome upset win.

              Obviously not as impressive as some of the other guys mentioned so far, but I figured he was a good test for anyone and he was beaten by a lot of awesome fighters.

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              • #8
                John Tate was winning his fight with Mike Weaver convincingly before getting caught with a punch in the last round.

                Jersey Joe Walcott fought a beautiful fight with Marciano before getting caught in what I believe was the 14th round.

                Obviously Hagler deserves to be mentioned multiple times.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kid McCoy View Post
                  George Chuvalo:

                  Muhammad Ali
                  George Foreman
                  Joe Frazier
                  Floyd Patterson
                  Ernie Terrell
                  Oscar Bonavena
                  Zora Folley
                  Bob Baker
                  Jimmy Ellis
                  Buster Mathis
                  Pete Rademacher
                  I was waiting for this one. Chuvalo takes the win. Not only did he have tough, competitive fights with all of these guys he was never knocked down in his whole career. He gave ali the toughest fight of his career... Twice.

                  After the first Ali fight the post fight quote "Sure the judges may have gave it to him (Ali). But when he was in the hospital with internal bleeding, I was out dancing with my wife"

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                  • #10
                    I did Chuvalo somewhere, not sure if it was here or **stS*d*B*x*ng. It was in an argument with a guy talking about great resumes and counting losses as part of them. I said according to him Chuvalo was one of the greatest ever.

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