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  • Southpaw Stinger
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    #51
    Originally posted by K-DOGG
    I would except for one problem. Should such a body be put together, what's to keep it from being just another problem for the sport in the long range?

    Well, let me think on it. I'm all about an "honest" body...if one could be formed; but something must be done to kill the WBC, WBA, WBO, and IBF. Perhapst contracts...hmmmmm.


    All the rest must burn for the NWO to rule.


    We could simply buy out all the other sanctioning bodies and then unite them? I'll put some money in a jar every week and save up what i can. I suggest you do the same and we'll see what we can do

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    • butterfly1964
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      #52
      Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
      We could simply buy out all the other sanctioning bodies and then unite them? I'll put some money in a jar every week and save up what i can. I suggest you do the same and we'll see what we can do
      .........

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      • Hydro
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        #53
        15 rounds or 12 rounds doesn't bother me that much. Either way is fine with me.

        In some of the late stoppages throughout history (Louis-Conn, SRL-Hearns I), I can imagine the guys pacing themselves differently and Leonard being more desperate in say, round 10 of a 12 rounder other than the 13th in a 15 rounder. Same thing with current fights, guys would pace themselves for 15. A case where it would not have mattered I think is Chavez-Taylor I. Taylor just took too much punishment and would've been stopped in the late rounds, IMO.

        Fix the weigh-in procedure, that's way more important than the rounds thing.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Hydro
          15 rounds or 12 rounds doesn't bother me that much. Either way is fine with me.

          In some of the late stoppages throughout history (Louis-Conn, SRL-Hearns I), I can imagine the guys pacing themselves differently and Leonard being more desperate in say, round 10 of a 12 rounder other than the 13th in a 15 rounder. Same thing with current fights, guys would pace themselves for 15. A case where it would not have mattered I think is Chavez-Taylor I. Taylor just took too much punishment and would've been stopped in the late rounds, IMO.

          Fix the weigh-in procedure, that's way more important than the rounds thing.
          yes that thing annoys me a lot.

          I was watching Taylor v Ouma last night and it said that at the way in they both scaled below 160 but today Taylor comes at 166 and Ouma at 164 which means that they are really super middles and not genuine middles...

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          • RAESAAD
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            #55
            I think all World title fights should be 13 rounds to lower the risk of a draw.......

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            • Hydro
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              #56
              Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
              yes that thing annoys me a lot.

              I was watching Taylor v Ouma last night and it said that at the way in they both scaled below 160 but today Taylor comes at 166 and Ouma at 164 which means that they are really super middles and not genuine middles...
              Most guys won't enter the ring in their weight class, maybe even in the same day weigh-ins, but they won't be much over the limit.

              When a guy like Cotto outweighs his opponent in Corley 157 to 140 on fight night, something is wrong.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #57
                Originally posted by No-Mas
                It had to do with the Mancini / Kim fight. The thought was that serious damage was done to fighters in the later rounds, so all the alphabet groups switched to 12 round championship fights. Some switched quicker than others, but they all changed due to the big outcry over the Mancini / Kim fight.
                - -Poor Ray just doing like umpteen fighters thru history was cursed with being the survivor.

                Kim mom committed suicide with some others in the mix as well.

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                • The plunger man
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                  #58
                  I think in 1983 the WBC was the 1st to reduce 15 rounders to 12 rounders because of the Mancini vs Kim fight......I think so don’t quote me on it is that Kim was overweight and had to lose a substantial amount for the fight to go ahead....Mancini went on to stop him in the 14th round and after the bell Kim went in to a coma and died shortly
                  The fight was the result of the WBC lowering the number of rounds during world title fights from 15 to 12 rounds and other organisations would follow suit a short time after.......I’m not sure if weigh ins were changed from same day to the 24hour weighs ins because of this fight.and the tragic circumstances.

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                    - -Poor Ray just doing like umpteen fighters thru history was cursed with being the survivor.

                    Kim mom committed suicide with some others in the mix as well.
                    I know I just read more info on this fight....Kim’s mother committed suicide and also the referee as well......how tragic a story is this....and very sad

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                    • The plunger man
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                      #60
                      15 round fights are great but if it was done to improve the safety of fighters then it’s a good thing and honestly half the fighters of today are not worthy of 15 rounders and would simply fold.
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                      Ali vs Frazier
                      Leonard vs hearns 1
                      Pryor vs Argüello 1 rank as 3 of the best 15 rounders world title fights in history and I miss them for sure

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