what do you think of Sugar Ray Leonard?

[KingAbdullah]

Surgur ray lenord was a great fighter and also quick and talented like when he beat Marvin Hagler, he was on top of his game...

that's because he waited for Hagler to reach the bottom of his game before facing him.

Remember; leonard challenged Hagler and Hagler accepted but refused to take a fightwith him years before the novelty wore off.

[Da Iceman]

leonard was kind of like butterfly1964 he's aight

[KingAbdullah]

As a person, i don't particularly like Ray Leonard, though i don't despise him either. He always wanted things his way: this number of rounds, this ring size, and especially, this amount of money, which was usually considerable. However, you can't deny the man's skill, talent, and most of all, his resume.

In the biggest fight of his career (Leonard-Hearns I), he was well behind on scorecards, but he ****** it up and went on to knockout Tommy. Some say it was premature (and i probably agree), but there was no denying that Hearns was done in that fight. Leonard deserves a lot of credit for that victory.

Ray is usually known for his speed and flair, but his power and killer instinct are a bit underrated, imo. He's one of the top 7-8 greatest fighters to ever live.

No he isn't.

[KingAbdullah]

amazing boxer, with amazing skills and determination, always had a plan on how to handle a fight. he outboxed hagler and Hearns and Duran, so you cant say that he didnt fight quality opposition. He was a complete fighter and i dont believe anyfighter today can match his ability at his prime, i also believe he would have beaten roy Jones in his prime at middleweight. He would have outboxed hopkins like he is nobody. He would frustrated Dela Hoya with his jab. He would made tito chase him all over the ring and then get him like he got Duran....

He couldn't even beat norris. How's he going to handle Roy?
beat Roy Jones at 160. Is that why he defended his title? I dare you to answer that for me.

Face it. Leonard fans like to spout off how great he was but when it comes down to it, they can't defend his ass for ****.

[KingAbdullah]

All you Leonard fans out there know you're going to get killed if you reply. You're too timid and don't know enough and don't want to get embarassed.

So the leonard detractors have the last say without his fans even putting up a fight.

[Heckler]

GREAT BOXERS, TOUGH BOXERS fight the best WHEN they are the best and will never back down. Ali, Marciano, Frazier... they would never turn a match down, and wouldn't back down to ANYONE.. thats how boxing should be. I think OLD PAST HIS PRIME hagler beat leonard as that was a bit of a bull**** descision... can't stand SRL flurrys... and the fact he was an attention seeking showpony.

[j]

great boxer. not much of a power puncher, but had great skills. should've lost to hagler, and did lose to my man the hitman.

what was it hagler was saying to sugar in that fight, something like "come on, fight like a man you *****." leonard was like "nope". absolutely hilarious.

[KingAbdullah]

what i think is most astonishing abour leonard is that he won the light heavy weight title and either the light middle weight or the light welterweight title all in the same year. That takes some doing

I could see why Leonard was more interested in fighting Lalonde than defending his titleagainst legitiate opposition. Picking up two titles in one night against a tomato can.

[KingAbdullah]

what exactly happened when he went toe to toe with duran ? he lost on all cards by a single round and i had the fight a draw when leonard closed the show out in the 15th. i dont have a problem with duran winning because ray let his emotions get the best of him but when focused he could box circles around duran.

he beat hagler which is embarrassing to marvin the guy was retired and out of it. coming up to middleweight champ and out pointing him. this just proved how great he is. just because hagler wasnt getting hurt doesnt mean points arent scored. he bounced so many combination off that bowling ball head theres no way i can find 7 rounds that marvin won.

he lost the rematch to hearns, great fight, he showed a lot of heart almost stopping tommy in the 12.

it's too bad I came to this site so late and you don't post anymore. Where are all the supporters now?


Leonard looked early on that his chin was not very solid. If you had his 1979 fight with marcos Geraldo which you don't, you'd see it. it was really a big turn off to see how easily Leonard got shaken. Marcos, a slapper clipped him on the chin with a right hand and his legs went in different directions at once. This happened twice more in the third round the last time with a straight left that knocked Leonard stumbling straight back into the ropes (similar to what Camacho did in their fight). It even happened in the same round!

Leonard just could never take a sudden jolt to the chin very well.

i might have excused him for it but in the first Duran fight, it happened again! The second round he was caught by Duran's left and he just couldn't hide the fact that he was hurt as he was sent staggering into the ropes. I mean, it threw his whole game plan off and he lost a decision.

i could see why he had to wait five whole years for Hagler to decline. Fighting a man without reflexes greatly reduced his chances of getting hurt.

Leonard did great so long as he was fighting past their prime relics in their 30's. Like Duran in uno mas. Slow, pudgy, short armed Duran, with nothing but his past reputation from the 70's and carrying 37 years on him but put him in with 23 year old,lean and mean (even a huge underdog like Norris) and watch how easily he comes apart.

Leonard was a total bust against legit competition. that's why avoided Hagler in early 80's, and hearns in mid 80's. he'd rather fight the likes of lalonde and Duran instead of Nunn, mcCallum, Jackson.

[SugaShane]

Sugar Ray Leonard is the worst thing boxing has ever produced.

- when Hagler yelled to Leonard, "Fight like a man!" Leonard said "No, no, no" and was happy to continue to run. Leonard himself tells that story and he is sickly proud of it.

- Leonard had an elaborate press conference at the Garden (with Hagler there) just to announce he will retire and not fight Hagler. Look at me, give me more and more attention, shine the spotlight on me, please mommy.

- Leonard lost his biggest fight of his career - Duran I.

- Leonard was very, very talented, but chose to win fights with silly flurries at the end of a round. Stealing the round they call it and moronic fans used to go crazy over it. Real fight fans used to spit at their TVs when Leonard pulled that crap.

- Leonard rigged the Hagler fight to favor him. Whatever happened to fighting a guy in his prime in a standard sized ring for fifteen rounds, Ray? Is that too much for you?

- Leonard was a girl in the ring, not a man

Leonard chose to fight with flurries because his hands were really brittle and he had to ice them everyday. He was the most talented fighter ever, even moreso then Roy Jones Jr and Floyd Mayweather.