Duran Leonard Hearns Hagler

[Sugarj]

Leonard for me, that said they are all legends. Duran was not at his best against these guys though due to the higher weight.....he obviously got a close decision against Leonard, but was owned in the rematch and later lost a decision. All the ballyhoo about his weight being a factor in the rematch for me was just an excuse, he was fighting very well, looking lively, his body looked toned and strong and he was only slightly outclassed by someone whos style had changed too dramatically for him to adjust to.

Hagler closely outpointed him and Hearns KO'd him in two.

Duran's reputation was built at lightweight but even there he was KO'd by Esteban DeJesus....I think in one! He has a good claim to best lightweight of all time but I'd still rate Leonard above him.

I scored the Leonard vs Hagler fight for Leonard, when I first watched it I thought it was clear but on second and third viewing it was a close one, maybe 115 113. Its just that Hagler didn't start fighting till round five. That said even the biggest Hagler fans couldn't argue that Marvin looked very good that night, his hooks were so slow and telegraphed and he barely slipped a single Leonard punch all night. Leonard hit him with 4 punch + combinations and every sucker punch in the book, Hagler even amateurously spun fully round after missing with a right hook. He wasn't the same as the 1985 Hagler who met Hearns. That Leonard did this after a lenghthly layoff is a testament to his worth in this company!

[Silencers]

Leonard for me, that said they are all legends. Duran was not at his best against these guys though due to the higher weight.....he obviously got a close decision against Leonard, but was owned in the rematch and later lost a decision. All the ballyhoo about his weight being a factor in the rematch for me was just an excuse, he was fighting very well, looking lively, his body looked toned and strong and he was only slightly outclassed by someone whos style had changed too dramatically for him to adjust to.

Hagler closely outpointed him and Hearns KO'd him in two.

Duran's reputation was built at lightweight but even there he was KO'd by Esteban DeJesus....I think in one! He has a good claim to best lightweight of all time but I'd still rate Leonard above him.

Duran didn't lose by KO at lightweight, De Jesus knocked him down in the first and won a decision in their first fight, Duran avenged that loss by knocking De Jesus out twice.

Leonard wasn't owning Duran in their second fight, it might have looked that way because of all the taunting Leonard was doing but Leonard wasn't ahead by much. Leonard admitted himself that he wanted to fight Duran as soon as possible because he knew Duran ballooned up in between fights.

Hagler gave him too much respect and could've won more decisively I think and Hearns' style was totally wrong for Duran.

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my real ranking

Duran > Leonard > Hagler > Hearns

favorite to least favorite

Hagler > Duran > Leonard = Hearns

[Hearnsz]

Alot of people say Duran is the best, probably because of his impressive lightweight carreer I guess. But I think he lost twice vs Leonard, and he also lost vs Hearns and Hagler I believe. I know it's because he always ate till he was like 240lbs between fights and was getting bored with training... Too bad Leonard had such a short carreer though...

[Sugarj]

I was obviously wrong about Duran being KO'd by DeJesus, I must have got mixed up with the first round knockdown. He was definately KO'd by Hearns though!!!!!

As for the Leonard rematch 'owned' was probably, I suppose a bit optimistic prior to rounds five and six and my later assertion of 'slightly outclassed' was closer to the mark. As I said before though, there was nothing much wrong with his shape that I could notice.

[toolboxdiver]

I like Duran as a lightweight and he is one of my favorite fighters
as a middleweight Marvin Hagler had a longer reach than Hearns, a granite chin and great movement that is one of the reasons he was so devistating in the middleweight division

[slicksouthpaw16]

Skill wise goes to Hearns easily. Overall greatness for me would be Ray Leonard or Duran.

[Thread Stealer]

Skill wise goes to Hearns easily. Overall greatness for me would be Ray Leonard or Duran.

Skill-wise, no one is "easily" the best.

Hearns was very difficult to outbox from the outside, as he outboxed Leonard and Benitez from the outside.

Hagler was an extremely versatile boxer puncher. Duran did nearly everything well in his prime. Good power and speed, pressure, box behind the jab (Dejesus rubber match), slip punches, roll with punches, etc...Leonard could box or brawl as well.

[AntonTheMeh]

And Trailing In 5th Wilfred Benitez!!!!!!!!!!

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Skill wise goes to Hearns easily. Overall greatness for me would be Ray Leonard or Duran.

skills are not only boxing from the outside