James Toney vs Nigel Benn or Chris Eubank at Super middleweight???

[LondonRingRules]

Well said wmute! Toney ducked no one! Toney's class against Nunn was evident with Toney doing the job on him in the championship rounds which defines why Toney's a Champion. Toney fought Nunn, McCallum, Jirov, Sosa, Johnson, Jones, Williams. And also granted them rematches. I get a sense of sour g****s from London, of course he's an Englishman who's sticking up for his fighters!

** Nonsense.

Happen to be well aquainted with the BIG MAN himself who Holy and TwoTonToney have been ducking for years, our beloved Lourde Audley.

Unfortunately the Big Man has temporarily suspended activities after he KOed his BMW in a rash moment of temper, injuring his arm. Privately called out the two pants boys for years not wanting to embarass them and watched The Man throw them all the title chances which they are never up to the scratch for. What, maybe good for 10 punches a round between the two of them?

Don't know what you chaps all on about, but I've been privledged to glimpse the future, and best cast your chips Lourde Audley's way lest you end up in some hobo camp warming up black market steroid solutions for your two rumpled pants boys.

Cheerio now and remember, you've been forewarned, advised really, just step away from the koolaide, a new refreshment is near.

[BennyST]

Christ mate! Sounds like you've got a few issues there, as most British seem to have, when it comes to talking about who Benn might beat. I think I've heard at various times that he would've beaten everyone and anyone from Monzon and Hagler through to Ali and Ray Robinson. lol

Seriously though, Watson exposed Benn badly and whoever said he didn't train for it mustn't have remembered how huge that fight was and how important it was for both fighters. They both were in amazing shape but Benn absolutely blew his load trying to KO Watson in the first five while taking massive counter punches the whole time until he realised that it wasn't going to happen and then just took a couple too many until getting TKO'ed.

Toney would have made Benn look a bit amateurish. To beat Toney at SMW you either had to have the super freak speed and skills of Roy Jones or the .... err ...well, actually thats about it. Benn certainly didn't and while Eubank was better than Benn I still don't think he was good enough to beat Toney. He was always very open to right hands and Toney had one of the best counter rights and right leads I can think of. His jab also would have been a big weapon against Eubank.

[pins0099]

IMO Toney beats them both, Eubank gives Toney more problems.

Benn was pretty much tailor-made for Toney.

Toney beats Benn I agree, but Eubank steps it up against better class opposition, something that Toney certainly DOES NOT an early 90's eubank would take an early 90's toney IMO.

[-Antonio-]

As most have pretty much said, Benn was made for Toney. Eu on the other hand, I'd have to watch more of his fights. From what I've sen he looks like he could pose some problems for Toney, as he was very cautious and could box.

[sterling]

toney beats eubank imo and nigel but he beats nigel more badley.

[Karlos81]

Toney beats Benn maybe if the Benn that fought McClellon turns up tough night for Toney.

But remember Toney when stepped up to true world class he struggled got a gift draw against a 154lb McCallum lost to Jones.

He beats Benn but Eubank was unique no-body whoops Eubank he had a jaw as good as Toneys and a similar skill set. Again depends on the Eubank the low out put Eubank would lose the Eubank that fought Benn twice would beat Toney who is easily frustrated.

[BennyST]

Toney beats Benn maybe if the Benn that fought McClellon turns up tough night for Toney.

But remember Toney when stepped up to true world class he struggled got a gift draw against a 154lb McCallum lost to Jones.

He beats Benn but Eubank was unique no-body whoops Eubank he had a jaw as good as Toneys and a similar skill set. Again depends on the Eubank the low out put Eubank would lose the Eubank that fought Benn twice would beat Toney who is easily frustrated.

Got a gift draw against McCallum? You kidding right? Mate, you must not have seen their fight if you think Toney got the gift draw! McCallum was the one who got the gift, and a big gift it was! It was a great fight and they are both two of my favourite fighters and let me tell you I have watched all of their fights a number of times. That first one Toney was screwed over getting only a draw. Watch it again.

What do you mean when Toney stepped up to true world class? Toney stepped up when he beat the number one pound for pound fighter in the world in Nunn. Most people had him at the numero uno spot. He beat a lot of good fighters and then lost to Jones when Jones was at his highest form. There is most certainly no disgrace in losing to Jones then...after all, no one beat him.

Anyway, I agree about the 'nobody whipps Eubank' part. He was a great fighter who would have given anyone problems in his prime. The thing is, and if you know Eubank you must have seen his fights with Watson, he did have trouble with fast, highly skilled counter punchers. His second fight with Watson is how I imagine a fight with Toney would go. Similar anyway. Toney would be able to catch Eubank with constant right hand counters which Eubank was very open to...His tendency to drop his hands would be a bad move against Toney. Eubank would be out-boxed I think as he had a fair bit of trouble against skilled boxer who could also fight on the inside which is exactly what Toney was absolutely brilliant at.

Great fight though. I really do believe Toney would dominate Benn and KO him mid rounds. Toney vs Eubank would be a really stunning fight though as Eubank was always up for a good, hard fight but I simply know that Toney had the style to beat Eubank. He would have had a lot of trouble with his fast hands and counter punching when he would lunge in. Thats what he struggled with against Watson and Watson was beaten at that by McCallum and McCallum was beaten at that by Toney. I know thats not always how things work but they all had quite the similar fight types to beat each other.

[Tony Jones]

I see Eubank takin Toney. Toney never looked as good when he stepped it up (He was losing to Nunn and i though he lost to McCallum) but i think he would be too slick for Benn who could be a bit wild.

[OldSkool]

Being British im inclined to go for the British lads. Unfortunately i can't see how either of them could have beat James Toney. Boxing wise Eubank had a better chance, but i could still see him getting totally outclassed by the Old School master boxer James Toney. Benn always had a punchers chance of course, but unless he landed one of his massive shots early, i think Benn would have taken a pretty bad beating.

[Orange Sneakers]

At dinners, Benn says Toney would have been a harder fight than the Watson and Eubank losses but says he'd have beaten him with a two-fisted body attack if he laid on the ropes. He says Toney would have been in for hell regardless because when he wasn't laying on the ropes he was standing in front of you. Someone mentioned Watson stood in front of him and beat him, he said Watson tucked himself and he punched himself out. Someone mentioned Toney's shoulder rolling, and Benn said he could punch the angles Toney was moving his upper body into, from range and in combination. He also considered Toney 'all mouth' for the most part.

Eubank thinks Toney would have out-worked him and probably beat him on points.