James Toney vs Nigel Benn or Chris Eubank at Super middleweight???

[Stallone60]

I just watched this old program on youtube called Eubank vs Benn best of enemies. It was hosted by johnathan ross it was advertising there 2nd fight in 1993. In part 4/4 they go to via sat to ask mickey rourke about the fight. Then after he talks beside him is james toney the IBF super middleweight champion at the time. He begins to rip into the both of them by saying he could take both of them and other crap saying he is much better. I wish he did fight one of them because i think Eubank would of gave him a boxing lesson and benn would of really kicked the crap out of this big mouth. What do you think???????????????????????

[TheGreatA]

IMO Toney beats them both, Eubank gives Toney more problems.

Benn was pretty much tailor-made for Toney.

[BennyST]

I wish he did fight one of them because i think Eubank would of gave him a boxing lesson and benn would of really kicked the crap out of this big mouth. What do you think???????????????????????

I think Toney would have made Benn look even worse than Watson made him look. Benn couldn't hurt or probably even hit Toney and would have taken him out in about six rounds. Anyone with a decent chin or defense who could box could beat Benn. It really would have been Watson vs Benn all over again but much worse. Toney was a better fighter than Watson, especially at Supermiddle where he had a lot more stamina and was able to fight for three minutes of each round instead of one or two.

Easy win for Toney as Benn really was the perfect fighter for him to look absolutely brilliant against. Constant winging power shots with no real thought at defense. Toney would've come straight up the middle and blown Benn apart on the inside where Benns power would be completely negated by Toneys short, sharp uppercut, left hook, right hand counters. Too fast, too smart, too good.

Toney against Eubank would have been closer but again I think Toney had the necessary speed, defense and counter punching skills to beat Eubank. He would have caught him a lot with his great counter right hands which Eubank was open to a lot. It would have been a close but clear UD for Toney.

Again, to use Watson as an example, Eubank had a lot of trouble with Watsons speed and defensive capabilities. He struggled to really get to him well and unlike Watson, Toney would not be KO'ed or hurt. He had good stamina at SMW and Eubank would've been caught a lot when he would lunge in with that right hand of his which Toney was brilliant at countering with his own right. Good fight though.

[Brunswick Assassin]

I think Toney would have made Benn look even worse than Watson made him look. Benn couldn't hurt or probably even hit Toney and would have taken him out in about six rounds. Anyone with a decent chin or defense who could box could beat Benn. It really would have been Watson vs Benn all over again but much worse. Toney was a better fighter than Watson, especially at Supermiddle where he had a lot more stamina and was able to fight for three minutes of each round instead of one or two.

Easy win for Toney as Benn really was the perfect fighter for him to look absolutely brilliant against. Constant winging power shots with no real thought at defense. Toney would've come straight up the middle and blown Benn apart on the inside where Benns power would be completely negated by Toneys short, sharp uppercut, left hook, right hand counters. Too fast, too smart, too good.

Toney against Eubank would have been closer but again I think Toney had the necessary speed, defense and counter punching skills to beat Eubank. He would have caught him a lot with his great counter right hands which Eubank was open to a lot. It would have been a close but clear UD for Toney.

Again, to use Watson as an example, Eubank had a lot of trouble with Watsons speed and defensive capabilities. He struggled to really get to him well and unlike Watson, Toney would not be KO'ed or hurt. He had good stamina at SMW and Eubank would've been caught a lot when he would lunge in with that right hand of his which Toney was brilliant at countering with his own right. Good fight though.

That's right! That video on Youtube when Toney blasts both Benn and Eubank is 'Gold'!LOL Both these guys were scared to fight against Toney. Toney would have done the old school **** on both Benn and Eubank and would just be way too slick making them constantly miss with his Zen like awareness. Rolling with punches while landing his vicious right counters, combining cute skills with serious power and using his sturdy chin in close quarters.

Toney's says in his interview with FightFan.com that Benn & Eubank are cowards for not fighting him and that he's going thru the same thing now with the Russians like what he was going thru with the English, the Europeans are scared to fight him!

Just watched Toney v Sosa on DVD which was a helluva fight! Although Toney schooled him considering it was a SD. Sosa is a tough S.O.B, he always kept coming at Toney landing some big bombs on Toney also. No wonder Roy Jones insisted Sosa come in under his normal fighting weight!

[Silencers]

As stated, Benn's style is tailor made for Toney, Toney would win an easy decision or score a late stoppage, his counters would be too much for Benn.

A fight with Eubank would be closer because of how good Eubank was technically and how smart he was in the ring but ultimately Toney has a more complete package and would have won a decision.

[LondonRingRules]

Toney's says in his interview with FightFan.com that Benn & Eubank are cowards for not fighting him and that he's going thru the same thing now with the Russians like what he was going thru with the English, the Europeans are scared to fight him!

** I don't know many who get their jollies listening to an old, fat, punchdrunk middleweight fill up his shorts.

Nobody wants to fight him anymore than they want to fight Tyson. Once Roy exposed him he went into his chicken bucket funk. Had Nunn not been a crackhead, he would've been better trained and more disciplined. Toney couldn't do squat with him until the last two rounds when Nunn started running out of steam.

Both Benn and Eubank at their bests would beat him, but like Two Ton, they sometimes weren't at their bests so throw the dice. If Toney was as good as you say, he wouldn't need steroids and he wouldn't be punch drunk. They've been propping him up to squeeze money out of his blubbery carcass because he did have a name after Jirov, but he blew it by becoming waddling fat.

[wmute]

Toney takes Benn apart big time.

Toney-Eubank is a lot closer, and although I rank Toney higher without a doubt, I think that Eubank gives him all sorts of problems.

[wmute]

** I don't know many who get their jollies listening to an old, fat, punchdrunk middleweight fill up his shorts.

Nobody wants to fight him anymore than they want to fight Tyson. Once Roy exposed him he went into his chicken bucket funk. Had Nunn not been a crackhead, he would've been better trained and more disciplined. Toney couldn't do squat with him until the last two rounds when Nunn started running out of steam.

Both Benn and Eubank at their bests would beat him, but like Two Ton, they sometimes weren't at their bests so throw the dice. If Toney was as good as you say, he wouldn't need steroids and he wouldn't be punch drunk. They've been propping him up to squeeze money out of his blubbery carcass because he did have a name after Jirov, but he blew it by becoming waddling fat.

Stop hating, man! The ****er might a ******mouth fatso, but he still was a great fighter.

And the part in bold is simply bull****. Toney started catching Nunn, earlier than in the last two rounds.

[Brunswick Assassin]

Stop hating, man! The ****er might a ******mouth fatso, but he still was a great fighter.

And the part in bold is simply bull****. Toney started catching Nunn, earlier than in the last two rounds.

Well said wmute! Toney ducked no one! Toney's class against Nunn was evident with Toney doing the job on him in the championship rounds which defines why Toney's a Champion. Toney fought Nunn, McCallum, Jirov, Sosa, Johnson, Jones, Williams. And also granted them rematches. I get a sense of sour g****s from London, of course he's an Englishman who's sticking up for his fighters!

Nobody can knock Toney as a fighter! You either love him or hate him. It's been clearly stated that Toney never meant to have drugs in his system for Ruiz fight. He was taking medication for a torn tricep muscle. Toney definitely didn't have the muscley, ripped body you get from taking steroids. As with the second test the CSAC found it to be inconclusive thus halving suspension. Also there's strong speculation that somebody had tampered with Toney's water bottle.

Toney didn't need drugs when he was putting his opponents away fair and square for 20 years so why the hell would he need them now?

[phallus]

two of my favorite all time middleweights, i've been waiting to see this thread for a long time. i love nigel benn, but i don't see any way he beats james toney, i don't think he'd be able to land a clean punch on toney. nigel gets lots of **** for the watson fight, but the truth is, he didn't really train for watson because he thought it'd be an easy KO and instead spent the day before the fight sitting in a chair for 10 hours getting dreadlocks. if he had trained, though, watson probably would have still outboxed him.

eubank isn't as good of a boxer as toney, like the other guy said, prime toney is a complete fighter, prime eubank is not. toney wins by decision