Prince Naseem Hamed - showman or all-time great?

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    #21
    If he had stayed with Ingle and actually trained for the Barerra fight he would have hospitalised Barerra.

    Love him or hate him, he was the best fighter in the world back then.

    It's well known that he only trained for 2 weeks for Barerra, and basically didn't even use a trainer for those 2 weeks. It's amazing he was even competitive in that fight.

    He may have been a **** (even though I loved his attitude), but for me he was one of the most gifted boxers of all time.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Konstantin
      yeah I think he had all the tools to be an all time great but he didnt focus on them enough. And who ever said he doesnt have a good chin? Name one fight were he was hurt. And btw being knocked down doesnt mean you're hurt, especially when your up by the count of 3.
      Agreed. It's also worth noting that when he did go down it was usually a balance issue, not a chin problem.

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        #23
        Showman, and a very good one at that!

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          #24
          Hamed is just below all time great. Only people who don't know boxing diss his resume.

          Bungu, Tom Johnson and Wilfredo Vasquez were great wins

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            #25
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
            Hamed is just below all time great. Only people who don't know boxing diss his resume.

            Bungu, Tom Johnson and Wilfredo Vasquez were great wins
            Way below, he fought one atg, lost, then quit to become a corpulent little porker... Amazing talent, but totally unfulfilled.. Will be remembered for quitting.

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              #26
              Originally posted by mickey malone
              Way below, he fought one atg, lost, then quit to become a corpulent little porker... Amazing talent, but totally unfulfilled.. Will be remembered for quitting.
              And for being a super douche.

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                #27
                Naseem Hamed COULD have been an all time great but he suffered from the same problem as Mike Tyson in that he started knocking people out then forgot about his boxing skills.

                Punching power is one thing but both Tyson & Naz were great boxers in their youth. They SET UP their knock outs. Once they got to a certain stage they just went swinging for the kayos.

                I watched Naz from his early teens & he was a boxer, a great skillful fast boxer. When he moved to Feather (as a pro) he changed and stopped listening to Ingle.

                He was a unique little bugger though. And the excitement he brought to the sport - especially in the UK - was great for the sport.

                And his entrance v Kevin Kelley was mental.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by taansend
                  Naseem Hamed COULD have been an all time great but he suffered from the same problem as Mike Tyson in that he started knocking people out then forgot about his boxing skills.

                  Punching power is one thing but both Tyson & Naz were great boxers in their youth. They SET UP their knock outs. Once they got to a certain stage they just went swinging for the kayos.

                  I watched Naz from his early teens & he was a boxer, a great skillful fast boxer. When he moved to Feather (as a pro) he changed and stopped listening to Ingle.

                  He was a unique little bugger though. And the excitement he brought to the sport - especially in the UK - was great for the sport.

                  And his entrance v Kevin Kelley was mental.
                  Agree with everything you say, but he was also a horrible little bugger who dissed and tried to humiliate who imo is the greatest boxing trainer the UK has ever produced.
                  Hamed actually believed he could teach Ingle a few lessons..

                  The littleman syndrome is what i can't stand about Hamed.. His fleet of fast cars, all had to be so big, that he could hardly see over the steering wheel, and he looked like Noddy [or should i say Big Ears] in the driving seat.. His motoring mirrored his boxing, was all about showing off, and he spent time in jail for leaving an elderly couple for dead in a hit and run.

                  All that said, but i loved every single one of his fights, and he was truly great to watch, even when making a prick of himself... Remember the great Reg Gutteridge describing him as a 'Hideous Puppet.'

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mickey malone
                    Agree with everything you say, but he was also a horrible little bugger who dissed and tried to humiliate who imo is the greatest boxing trainer the UK has ever produced.
                    Hamed actually believed he could teach Ingle a few lessons..
                    That last part is very true. The way he treated Ingle was scandalous.

                    Not sure about Ingle being from the UK though.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by taansend
                      That last part is very true. The way he treated Ingle was scandalous.

                      Not sure about Ingle being from the UK though.
                      Brendon may have born in Dublin, but he's an MBE, and has spent all of his plausible life, living and working in England, so that'll do for me.

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