A Couple of Jack Johnson questions

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  • travestyny
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    #41
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
    - -No beating, Einstein.

    It is widely agreed the two friends were to spar exhibition style. Ketchel POed over JJ muscling him around and let lose a KD and the rest history.

    What, the PO lost U new Jack Dempsey dartboard in the mail?
    1. I posted a source clearly stating it was a beatdown, and I can post two more if necessary.

    2. Already posted what I knew of the Ketchel fight.

    3. Did you ever learn why Dempsey and Wills didn't fight in 2020? You know. When you claimed they were made a nice offer. Seems a bit late in the game for me.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #42
      Originally posted by travestyny
      1. I posted a source clearly stating it was a beatdown, and I can post two more if necessary.

      2. Already posted what I knew of the Ketchel fight.

      3. Did you ever learn why Dempsey and Wills didn't fight in 2020? You know. When you claimed they were made a nice offer. Seems a bit late in the game for me.
      - -One yr after Willard. Posted the link several x. $300k.

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        #43
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - -One yr after Willard. Posted the link several x. $300k.
        You posted bullshlt that Willie Pep amongst others showed you was wrong with proof. Kind of like what happens to you in every single thread you participate in. You are proven wrong, and you can't accept it.

        Move along, chump. P.S. That picture don't look like 2020 to me

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        • GhostofDempsey
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          #44
          Originally posted by Dr. Z
          PS: I can find many articles that offer Johnson money to fight if that's what you need to see vs Langford, Jeannette and Langford. These fights never happened.

          I can not name one lineal champion who avoided this much competition, and yes I can add Smith and possibly McCarty to the list.
          Posters here call Jeannette, Langford and McVea liars when they collectively insisted Jack Johnson never gave them their title shots while he was HW champion. He had plenty of excuses to avoid them and ended up fighting a lesser fighter instead. Johnson was never serious about fighting any of them once they got some experience under their belt. Remember, he fought all three while they were green or just starting out. He also had a distinct size advantage. Once they improved and entered their prime he wanted nothing to do with them. His resume is a solid indication of the kind of fights he was looking for.

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            #45
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            Posters here call Jeannette, Langford and McVea liars when they collectively insisted Jack Johnson never gave them their title shots while he was HW champion. He had plenty of excuses to avoid them and ended up fighting a lesser fighter instead. Johnson was never serious about fighting any of them once they got some experience under their belt. Remember, he fought all three while they were green or just starting out. He also had a distinct size advantage. Once they improved and entered their prime he wanted nothing to do with them. His resume is a solid indication of the kind of fights he was looking for.
            Proof is in the pudding. You're lying.






            But still...I would LOVEEE for you to answer. If Jack Johnson ducked Sam Langford because he refused to honor a contract for Langford for a shared 3000 pounds (about $10,000--$20,000 short of his asking price for all challengers), what does that make Jack Dempsey for refusing to honor a contract to fight Wills for $800,000 (more money than he made vs. Tunney)?

            Can't have it both ways, can you? Or are you just a tad bit biased here, hmmmm? I guess Dempsey is 80X more guilty than Jack Johnson
            Last edited by travestyny; 01-19-2021, 06:14 PM.

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            • Marchegiano
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              #46
              Trav always has a source. don't **** with'em.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                Trav always has a source. don't **** with'em.
                Anonymous sources in his folder he has on his computer just for “winning” arguments. We have done this before and Johnson never made a true effort to make those fights. Proof is in the no-hopers he chose in their place and their own testimony. I’ll believe Langford who was there over some third rate anonymous “journalist” paid to print whatever comes out of the mouth of the highest bidder.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  Anonymous sources in his folder he has on his computer just for “winning” arguments. We have done this before and Johnson never made a true effort to make those fights. Proof is in the no-hopers he chose in their place and their own testimony. I’ll believe Langford who was there over some third rate anonymous “journalist” paid to print whatever comes out of the mouth of the highest bidder.
                  You're always going to be one of the biggest bltches here

                  Anonymous sources? Yea. The New York Times is anonymous

                  I guess so is the New York commission who pulled the Jeannette fight.

                  The promoters who pulled the Langford and McVey fights...anonymous.


                  Bullshlt. You butthurt pansy. Stop lying on these fighters. You should be ashamed of yourself to do this dumb butthurt shlt in the history section.
                  Last edited by travestyny; 01-19-2021, 10:09 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    Anonymous sources in his folder he has on his computer just for “winning” arguments. We have done this before and Johnson never made a true effort to make those fights. Proof is in the no-hopers he chose in their place and their own testimony. I’ll believe Langford who was there over some third rate anonymous “journalist” paid to print whatever comes out of the mouth of the highest bidder.
                    He has proof of what he says. Do you?

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      He has proof of what he says. Do you?
                      - -That U & Weensy share a bladder?

                      To hold U proof presumably.

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