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  • Originally posted by shawn_ View Post
    Nicolino Locche!
    Very good, yes, but I wouldn't say there's enough footage to tell for sure. As far as pure defense though, you may have a case.

    I have seen his rematch with Cervantes, have you seen their first fight, or is it even on film?

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    • Originally posted by Sweet Pete View Post
      Very good, yes, but I wouldn't say there's enough footage to tell for sure. As far as pure defense though, you may have a case.

      I have seen his rematch with Cervantes, have you seen their first fight, or is it even on film?
      1st fight is on youtube i believe.

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      • IMO


        1. Sweet Pea ( Just so hard to hit and i rank him 1st but only slightly ahead of Pep )
        2. Pep ( If the whole " Winning a round without throwing a punch" is fact and not made up Bull**** then he deserves a very high place )
        3. Floyd Mayweather ( Incrediby accurate counter puncher his Defense launches his offense which is extremely Underrated IMO )
        4. Wright ( Not much mention of him here but certainly an Excellent defensive Fighter
        5. RJJ ( Not so much for defense but his Reflexes and speed were the best i have ever seen and that was what he used for his defense )


        Honourable Mentions

        Ali
        Tyson
        Duran ( Not mentioned much on this thread and to the person in an earlier post who described him as a Defensive master i Agree he was known Offensively but he was great defensively also )


        Not seen any footage of this Nicolino Locche so i decided not to include him in my list

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        • Originally posted by Burning Desire View Post
          1st fight is on youtube i believe.
          That's the second fight. Looks very good there, but actually lost the fight.

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          • Originally posted by Real OG View Post
            IMO


            1. Sweet Pea ( Just so hard to hit and i rank him 1st but only slightly ahead of Pep )
            2. Pep ( If the whole " Winning a round without throwing a punch" is fact and not made up Bull**** then he deserves a very high place )
            3. Floyd Mayweather ( Incrediby accurate counter puncher his Defense launches his offense which is extremely Underrated IMO )
            4. Wright ( Not much mention of him here but certainly an Excellent defensive Fighter
            5. RJJ ( Not so much for defense but his Reflexes and speed were the best i have ever seen and that was what he used for his defense )


            Honourable Mentions

            Ali
            Tyson
            Duran ( Not mentioned much on this thread and to the person in an earlier post who described him as a Defensive master i Agree he was known Offensively but he was great defensively also )


            Not seen any footage of this Nicolino Locche so i decided not to include him in my list
            Wright's a good addition. I think you could also include Hopkins based on his later fights. I have to disagree with you on Tyson (I think his defense has been grossly overrated, I base this partly on testimony of his former trainers), however picking Duran shows true boxing knowledge: Roberto's defense was subtle and not many fans picked up on it. Good call!

            Poet
            Last edited by StarshipTrooper; 12-25-2007, 10:32 AM.

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            • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
              Wright's a good addition. I think you could also include Hopkins based on his later fights. I have to disagree with you on Tyson (I think his defense has been grossly overrated, I base this partly on testimony of his former trainers), however picking Duran shows true boxing knowledge: Roberto's defense was subtle and not many fans picked up on it. Good call!

              Poet
              LOL, I think you quoted the wrong guy by mistake.

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              • Originally posted by Sweet Pete View Post
                LOL, I think you quoted the wrong guy by mistake.
                I do believe you are correct Sir! Not sure how that happend LOL!

                Poet

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                • Originally posted by The Underboss View Post
                  tyson's defense was awsome (which was bopping and moving around).

                  wow this is ...roy jones esq

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                  • Originally posted by revs1227 View Post
                    wow this is ...roy jones esq
                    Let's not go overboard, their styles were completely different. Roy was no bob and weaver. He also did get tagged quite a bit in that clip.

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                    • For the person who said Ali was not a good defensive fighter I have to ask: What are you basing this on? The past it Ali who laid on the ropes in the 70s? In his prime years he was practically unhittable. He was known to drop his hands down to his sides and just move his upper body and fighters, good fighters, couldn't hit him. A lot of people have said he did everything "wrong" in terms of fighting technique but his speed and reflexes made it work for him. Roy Jones could be criticized for the same thing but, for him as well, it worked. Until his reflexes slowed and he could no longer pull it off. The difference between Ali and Roy is that Ali adapted and changed his style when is reflexes started to go; Roy didn't and got KOed twice trying to fight his old style while lacking the reflexes to do it.

                      Poet

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