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  • #41
    Armstrong was quite natural top lightweight and its against lightweights that the bulk of his best wins came.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by crold1 View Post
      Armstrong was quite natural top lightweight and its against lightweights that the bulk of his best wins came.
      ** And jr welt. Armstrong was a monster at those weights and could hold his own against any in history.

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      • #43
        Armstrong's most overrated weight is welter despite his amazing reign; it is unlikely that he could have done that in a deeper pool of natural welters the size og Rob or Leonard. Griffith-Armstong would have been a WOW

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        • #44
          i have heard of henry armstrong i guess a lot of people have not

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          • #45
            Duran #1, Whitaker #2, Armstrong #3.

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            • #46
              Duran is the obvious answer.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Bobby Pazuzu View Post
                ...Also the poll asks who was the best lightweight CHAMPION.
                Which is a slightly different question from greatest lightweight...
                Wrong! "Best" is your word. The thread title is "The Greatest Lightweight Champion Ever." The poll question is "Whose reign was the most dominant?"

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
                  Wrong! "Best" is your word. The thread title is "The Greatest Lightweight Champion Ever." The poll question is "Whose reign was the most dominant?"

                  Duran probably had the most dominant reign at 135, but I believe both Leonard and Gans fought the tougher comp. It is difficult to compare era's so far apart though. Neither of these guys get the p4p recognition they deserve by fans today, but both were just as impressive as Duran. Leonards level of competition overall was near equal to Durans. And I don't think Gans is very far behind either of them. What is surprising to me is that Gans doesn't have more losses. As a black man fighting at the turn of the century he must have been absolutely dominant to have only had 10 losses in 201 fights, as blacks were routinely jobbed against white fighters if the contest was close. Blacks were sometimes paid better to take a dive to a white fighter, which was the case with Gans vs Terry McGovern.
                  All in all, any order you have these 3 in at lightweight I can live with. In the lower weight classes these men fought in (135, 147) Duran had the best championship reign, Leonard fought the best competition, and Gans in all likelyhood was the most dominant. Just my opinion.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    Duran probably had the most dominant reign at 135, but I believe both Leonard and Gans fought the tougher comp. It is difficult to compare era's so far apart though. Neither of these guys get the p4p recognition they deserve by fans today, but both were just as impressive as Duran. Leonards level of competition overall was near equal to Durans. And I don't think Gans is very far behind either of them. What is surprising to me is that Gans doesn't have more losses. As a black man fighting at the turn of the century he must have been absolutely dominant to have only had 10 losses in 201 fights, as blacks were routinely jobbed against white fighters if the contest was close. Blacks were sometimes paid better to take a dive to a white fighter, which was the case with Gans vs Terry McGovern.
                    All in all, any order you have these 3 in at lightweight I can live with. In the lower weight classes these men fought in (135, 147) Duran had the best championship reign, Leonard fought the best competition, and Gans in all likelyhood was the most dominant. Just my opinion.
                    Easier read on preceeding post
                    Last edited by Panamaniac; 07-29-2008, 01:54 AM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
                      Easier read on preceeding post
                      Im not following, you've lost me.

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