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Top 10 Heavies from best to worst
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>muhammad ali
>joe louis
>mike tyson
>sam langford
>rocky marciano
>jack johnson
>lennox lewis
>joe fraizer
>jack dempsey
>george foreman
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I've posted this list before, but here it is again for those who may want a crack at tearing it down or critisizing it. Common sense and logic only, please.
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Jack Johnson
5. Lennox Lewis
6. George Foreman
7. Mike Tyson
8. Sonny Liston
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Rocky Marciano
11. Jack Dempsey
12. Joe Frazier
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostI've posted this list before, but here it is again for those who may want a crack at tearing it down or critisizing it. Common sense and logic only, please.
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Jack Johnson
5. Lennox Lewis
6. George Foreman
7. Mike Tyson
8. Sonny Liston
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Rocky Marciano
11. Jack Dempsey
12. Joe Frazier
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Originally posted by LDB15 View Posti'll have a crack at it, just cos im curious why larry holmes so high
He had 20 straight title defenses and was clearly the best and most consistent fighter from 78 till 85. Is the only elite heavyweight to approach Marciano's 49-0 record. His wins over Norton and Shavers showed trendous heart and his skill was undeniable. If it wasn't for his bland and sometimes distastful personality and the fact he came after Ali, it is my opinion he would be more highly regarded on a personal level today. There were a few fighters I thought he should have fought (there are for almost any champion) and two who deserved rematches (Williams and Witherspoon), but overall he was dominant.
Now.....turn about is fair play. You don't even have Holmes in your top 10 and I think that is a crime. Why?
And how is it you rate Dempsey, Frazier and Tyson ahead of him?
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This is boxrecs top 25 all time heavyweights.
Top 5 I can't argue with, personally I'd have Lennox in there but that is just me.
I like that Harry Wills is so high, it's where he should be IMO.
But jesus, mary and butt licking joseph, who compiled this list. Take a look at no.6, no.16 and no.17.
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name W-L-D last 6 career stance residence
1 Muhammad Ali 56 (37) - 5 (1) - 0
1960-1981 orthodox Louisville, Kentucky, United States
2 Joe Louis 65 (51) - 3 (2) - 0
1934-1951 orthodox Detroit, Michigan, United States
3 Jack Johnson 73 (40) - 13 (7) - 9
1897-1938 orthodox Raleigh, North Carolina, United States
4 Larry Holmes 69 (44) - 6 (1) - 0
1973-2002 orthodox Easton, Pennsylvania, United States
5 Harry Wills 81 (52) - 10 (5) - 4
1911-1932 orthodox New Orleans, Louisiana, United States
6 Floyd Patterson 55 (40) - 8 (5) - 1
1952-1972 orthodox Brooklyn, New York, United States
7 Sam Langford 203 (129) - 46 (9) - 52
1902-1926 orthodox Boston, Massachusetts, United States
8 Rocky Marciano 49 (43) - 0 (0) - 0
1947-1955 orthodox Brockton, Massachusetts, United States
9 Ezzard Charles 93 (52) - 25 (7) - 1
1940-1959 orthodox Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
10 Sonny Liston 50 (39) - 4 (3) - 0
1953-1970 orthodox Saint Louis, Missouri, United States
11 Joe Frazier 32 (27) - 4 (3) - 1
1965-1981 orthodox Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
12 Lennox Lewis 41 (32) - 2 (2) - 1
1989-2003 orthodox London, United Kingdom
13 Mike Tyson 50 (44) - 6 (5) - 0
1985-2005 orthodox Catskill, New York, United States
14 George Foreman 76 (68) - 5 (1) - 0
1969-1997 orthodox Houston, Texas, United States
15 Max Schmeling 56 (40) - 10 (5) - 4
1924-1948 orthodox Brandenburg, Germany
16 Jimmy Bivins 86 (31) - 25 (5) - 1
1940-1955 orthodox Cleveland, Ohio, United States
17 Marvin Hart 30 (20) - 8 (5) - 7
1899-1910 orthodox Fern Creek, Kentucky, United States
18 James J Jeffries 18 (15) - 1 (1) - 2
1896-1910 orthodox San Francisco, California, United States
19 Jack Sharkey 38 (13) - 14 (4) - 3
1924-1936 orthodox Boston, Massachusetts, United States
20 Sam McVea 65 (47) - 16 (5) - 10
1902-1921 orthodox Oxnard, California, United States
21 Jack Dempsey 66 (51) - 6 (1) - 11
1914-1927 orthodox Salt Lake City, Utah, United States
22 Joe Jeannette 112 (68) - 22 (2) - 14
1904-1922 orthodox Union City, New Jersey, United States
23 Max Baer 68 (52) - 13 (3) - 0
1929-1941 orthodox Livermore, California, United States
24 Ingemar Johansson 26 (17) - 2 (2) - 0
1952-1963 orthodox Gothenburg, Sweden
25 Ken Norton 42 (33) - 7 (4) - 1
1967-1981 orthodox San Diego, California, United States
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