Ali is Overrated

[CJRock]

I think Ali is overrated for the simple fact that there were points in his career in which he was cruising on decisions he got just because he was Muhammad Ali and the champion. But overall the man was a monster. I also think that a lot of people who really don't know boxing just know Muhammad Ali the name and decide that because he was called the greatest he had to be the greatest. Don't get me wrong I'm a pretty big Ali fan myself but I can see where your coming from.

Muhammad Ali IS WAS & ALWAYS WILL BE

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE GREATEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CJRock]

I think Ali is overrated for the simple fact that there were points in his career in which he was cruising on decisions he got just because he was Muhammad Ali and the champion. But overall the man was a monster. I also think that a lot of people who really don't know boxing just know Muhammad Ali the name and decide that because he was called the greatest he had to be the greatest. Don't get me wrong I'm a pretty big Ali fan myself but I can see where your coming from.

Muhammad Ali IS WAS & ALWAYS WILL BE

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE GREATEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-X-]

But besides that statement of the obvious, where have guys like Sabbath, K-Dogg, Kid Achilles, Buddy, Butterfly, Stinger, etc., run off to?

I only ask because I don't see much in the way of recent posts from any of these guys in the history section here.

Change this thread title ****head.

[Yogi]

Change this thread title ****head.

I'm not sure I know how to do that even if I wanted to, but as an alternative can I instead offer you a tissue for your tear perhaps?

[THE REAL NINJA]

K-Dogg found a new job and doesn't have a home computer or something like that but Matt made a thread the other day sayin that he had spoke to him so maybe he knows how to find him.

[Yogi]

K-Dogg found a new job and doesn't have a home computer or something like that but Matt made a thread the other day sayin that he had spoke to him so maybe he knows how to find him.

Oh right, K-Dogg did use to say that he only posted from work before, so yeah, that would make perfect sense as to why he's not posting here any more.

Thanks Darren.

[chabobo66]

I think Ali is overrated for the simple fact that there were points in his career in which he was cruising on decisions he got just because he was Muhammad Ali and the champion. But overall the man was a monster. I also think that a lot of people who really don't know boxing just know Muhammad Ali the name and decide that because he was called the greatest he had to be the greatest. Don't get me wrong I'm a pretty big Ali fan myself but I can see where your coming from.

You my friend are an idiot. If you're a true boxing fan, there's One unspoaken rule is you never disrespect the greatest.

Ali was the greatest in and out of the ring. Period. End of discussion

[Yogi]

You my friend are an idiot.

That's pretty uncalled for, my friend, especially when the only thing even remotely negative towards Ali in Bengi's post was an opinion that Ali had influence over some judges just because of his name & standing in the sport, which would be views that are quite similiar to this opinion, for example;

"The Ali legend has a history of impressing the judges and the referee." - so said Ferdie Pacheco midway through Ali/Norton III

Pacheco also refered the the "cruising" part of Bengi's opinion, as well, just before that statement when he stated that "Ali hasn't done anything except for a lot of showboating", which again shows that Bengi's opinion isn't all that uncommon, even by those close to Ali.

But then again, could you possibly be, for example, one of three people in the world (the other two being two of the judges, with one reportedly having Ali up by 70-61...the other was atleast kind enough to find one round in there for Foreman) who thought Ali was pitching a clear shutout against Foreman?

[Welter_Skelter]

I agree with YOGI... we humans have a way of viewing the PAST with rose coloured glasses.. There is NO doubt Ali was Great Boxer.. He was the one of the best of his ERA.. But HIS ERA was no better than ANY OTHER ERA.. I DARE ANYBODY to compare any top 10 list from any era and to explain to me why its better than any other top 10 list.. I bet you cant .. In fact I know you cant.. So shut up and join the present..

[kayjay]

Good point Welter. Every boxer who is dead is overrated. But Ali is overrated for more reasons and in more ways.