It's not too long ago when a lot of people believed that today's HW's would be too big for the past Boxing greats to handle. But a smaller man in Ibragimov is starting to prove that skill>steroid lard. I know he has yet to prove a lot, but we're seeing a strong skilled fighter take on the Superheavyweights without showing disadvantages in size. I feel like he is proof that at a surtain point in weights, it really won't matter. The likes of Ali, Holmes, Liston , Louis etc, would still be superior imo. Do you agree?
Sultan Ibragimov destroying Size Myths?
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Well Valuev lost to a guy a foot shorter and near 100lbs lighter... fights like that and the Ibragimov - Briggs fight prove that size is overated. -
It's not too long ago when a lot of people believed that today's HW's would be too big for the past Boxing greats to handle. But a smaller man in Ibragimov is starting to prove that skill>steroid lard. I know he has yet to prove a lot, but we're seeing a strong skilled fighter take on the Superheavyweights without showing disadvantages in size. I feel like he is proof that at a surtain point in weights, it really won't matter. The likes of Ali, Holmes, Liston , Louis etc, would still be superior imo. Do you agree?Comment
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The Chagaev Valuev fight was a much better example of that myth being put to bed.
Ibragimov-Briggs was a low standard fight IMO, whereas Valuev-Chagaev was a good fight - Valuev isn't awful and Chagaev fought very well.Comment
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Chagaev Valuev wasn't a destruction though. I had Chagaev winning but not by much. That was a pretty close fight, that could have gone either way.Comment
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Good points. The others like Toney, Chagaev etc have also contributed for the evidence. But i just feel like Ibragimov will continue to give a good account of himself against big men. Most of the top Heavyweights are bigger than him, and if he keeps this up we will have more and more cases where we can say ''look at Sultan'' when we're in one of those ''Weight advantage'', ''Too big'' debates.Comment
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Size dont come into play that much if you got the skills and heart. Marciano would beat the champs about today and he was small by todays standards.
Theres always been massively big heavyweights none of them are all time greats IMO. Valuev is big but could anyone honestly see him doing anything with a prime Dempsey,Louis,Marciano,Frazier,Holyfield or Tyson???Comment
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You fellas mention guys who are bums.
If you ever boxed with someone of equal skill and much greater size youd know that it does mater.
WTF can you do against a man whose 5 or 4 inches taller then you sticking his jab in your face all day.
If you are big and know how to use your size then the other guy is in trouble.
There are exceptions to any rule, but in general terms the bigger guy has the advantage.
However some guys like Valuev are just big punching bags.
Briggs whose a complete ****ing bum still went the distance just because of his size, the fight was a bore because the massive briggs used his size to keep Sultan off his ass....This is someone with the most limited skills I have seen since i started watching the sport.
The only Valuev reason got anywhere was because of his SIZE. So quit trying to say size means **** all.
Who would ever hear of Valuev if he wasnt a giant?Last edited by Banderivets; 06-12-2007, 02:55 PM.Comment
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