More punching power: Tyson or Marciano?

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  • The Iron Man
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    #181
    Yeh Tyson didnt have as much power as Shavers and Foreman, but he was more accurate and punched in ******ly quick combos!.

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      #182
      Originally posted by lazyitis
      Marciano nuthuggers are fuggin ******s. Sheesh.
      I guess you never saw the Marciano-Walcott knockout. That's the best one punch knockout I've ever seen.



      I don't know who had the better one-punch power but this is a good question. Marciano had knock-out power in the 13th round. Tyson was awesome in the early part of the fight. Tyson was 20 pounds heavier but that doesn't always translate into more power.

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        #183
        Originally posted by Grappler_Baki60
        Marciano is a BUM what he weight in the past isn't consider Heavy Weight Today. What I said b4 still stands Marciano was a bum who fought bums PERIOD. The people he fought NONE had good defense seriously. Thats like Tyson fighting random people in the street who dont have any boxing experience. Any heavy can swing hard at someone who doesn't put their hands up.
        I'm not a Marciano fan. And I think he is overrated by some, but he certainly wasn't a bum. He's definitely an ATG. Jersey Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles were also ATGs.

        Without a doubt the 50s was not the best era in heavyweight boxing, but there is a big difference in not being the GOAT and being a bum. Marciano is definitely a top 10, at worst a top 20. (Ring has him at 6). That's not a bum.
        Last edited by bklynboy; 06-25-2009, 06:53 PM. Reason: spelling

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          #184
          Originally posted by RossCA
          Its close???? My ass. lol Tyson was way more powerful than Marciano. We need to compare Tysons punching power against guys like Forman, Liston, and Shavers. Marciano will never fit into that group.
          Marciano will fit into that group. Marcaino held a KO Percentage higher than all the fighters you named. Out of his 49 wins 43 were by KO, he posssed one of the best KO Percentages of all time(87%). Out of 7 World Title Fights that he was involved in, he knocked out 6.

          Marcaino hit like hell with both hands.But the overhand right was the one he went most often for the Kayo. He threw it sometimes like he was back on the ball field, raring back and giving it some extra snap at the end, but just as often it was short and you didnt even knew he threw it until the other guy was quivering on the mat with the referee over him and Marcaino in the neutral corner.

          Today, we see punchers build kayo record early in their career's only to watch that kayo percentage plumment when they start to face top 10 or world class fighters. It was the other way round with Marcaino, of his six career decision wins five came before he was champion.

          When Ring Magazine done there 100 greatest pucnhers of all time Marcaino was ranked 14th higher than both Tyson and Liston.

          To say he isn't in the league with the fighters you mentioned is complete bogus.

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            #185
            Originally posted by Southpaw16bf
            Marciano will fit into that group. Marcaino held a KO Percentage higher than all the fighters you named. Out of his 49 wins 43 were by KO, he posssed one of the best KO Percentages of all time(87%). Out of 7 World Title Fights that he was involved in, he knocked out 6.

            Marcaino hit like hell with both hands.But the overhand right was the one he went most often for the Kayo. He threw it sometimes like he was back on the ball field, raring back and giving it some extra snap at the end, but just as often it was short and you didnt even knew he threw it until the other guy was quivering on the mat with the referee over him and Marcaino in the neutral corner.

            Today, we see punchers build kayo record early in their career's only to watch that kayo percentage plumment when they start to face top 10 or world class fighters. It was the other way round with Marcaino, of his six career decision wins five came before he was champion.

            When Ring Magazine done there 100 greatest pucnhers of all time Marcaino was ranked 14th higher than both Tyson and Liston.

            To say he isn't in the league with the fighters you mentioned is complete bogus.
            Agree with this, whatever negative comments are made about Marciano such as his competition, size etc no one can agrgue that he could hit. Another factor is his stamina, I would put the weight of punch of Marciano (and Frazier) in the later rounds against any fighter.

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              #186
              tyson outweighed rocky by 30 fkn pounds!

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                #187
                Originally posted by boxing_great
                tyson outweighed rocky by 30 fkn pounds!
                Punching is timing not weight lots of huge fighters cant punch for ****.

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                  #188
                  I rate Marciano's punching power very highly, as perhaps one of the best p4p punchers of all time.

                  I'm not sure if he punched harder than Tyson though. Size does matter, and Tyson had a 30 lb weight advantage over Marciano who never truly proved his power against 200+ lb ranked opponents.

                  Later on in his title reign he turned into more of a wear-them-down type of pressure fighter instead of going for the one punch KO's which he was known for earlier in his career.

                  I never thought of Tyson as a one punch KO artist, he got his opposition out of there with pin-point, accurate combinations. In the 90's he did prove to be dangerous even though he had abandoned most of his technique and went for homeruns with each punch he threw. He could only KO fringe contenders this way however and found little success against Holyfield and Lewis.



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                    #189
                    Originally posted by boxing_great
                    tyson outweighed rocky by 30 fkn pounds!
                    Some of the biggest punchers were not the heaviest boxers. Look at the poll question neither Marciano nor Tyson are anywhere near the heaviest boxers of all time.

                    Nor were Foreman (220-225) Shavers (205-215)

                    Max Baer (210) Joe Louis (210)

                    What about Braddock a natural middleweight (Paul Williams type body) who fought at heavy to make more money. There was little money at middleweight in the 20s.

                    What about Harry Greb and many others who had real juice, true KO power and yet were skinny f*ks?

                    Are the hardest throwing pitchers all the biggest guys? No. Speed, fluidity, timing all count. Look at Tiger Woods he outhits guys outweighing him by 40 pounds. He weighs about 20 pounds more now than when he came up 10 years ago but he isn't hitting the ball any further.

                    Weight counts (duh -- we have weight classes) but greater weight does not equal greater punching power)

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                    • The Iron Man
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                      #190
                      TheGreatA, another great set of videos mate. Keep up the good work, i never get tired of watching your vids!.

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