Who could beat a prime George Foreman?

[SABBATH]

Sabbath knows his boxing, props to him. Yo, do you think jermain taylor will end up being top 5 middleweight of all times, i seriously think this guy is a pot of gold. He will surpass b-hop, mark my words!

Right now no. He has good tools but two narrow wins over the faded B-Hop and a disputed decision over Winky Wright don't have me sold on him at all. If he learns from those fights and improves he could have a decent reign. I think it's way too early to tell.

[K-DOGG]

Sabbath knows his boxing, props to him. Yo, do you think jermain taylor will end up being top 5 middleweight of all times, i seriously think this guy is a pot of gold. He will surpass b-hop, mark my words!

If you're talking to me, I think he has the potential; but he also has a ways to go and I don't know if he can keep making the weight long enough to do it.

[brownpimp88]

Well after he beats mora, he will most likely fight the winner of miranda/green. He's beat guys like marquez, ouma and joppy, they arent great but they are much better than hakkar and eastman. I still dont forgive hopkins for fighting extremely weak comp after he beat trinidad. However, he did leap into immortality when he knocked out the blown up de la hoya.

[Kid Achilles]

Notable contenders/ex-champions of the 1910s abd 1920s who Dempsey beat:

Jess Willard
Jack Sharky
Georges Carpentier
Tommy Gibbons
Bill Brennan
Luis Firpo
Fred Fulton
Carl Morris
Battling Levinski
Billy Miske
Gunboat Smith
Fireman Flynn

Many of these contenders and champions were destroyed by knockout, often within a handful of rounds, by the Mauler. I'll admit Dempsey's opposition does not stack up to a Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali but it's no worse than Foreman's or Marciano's IMO. If you consider the quality of these wins (weighing knockouts victories over questionable decisions and draws), Dempsey must be considered a top ten heavyweight.

[brownpimp88]

Notable contenders/ex-champions of the 1910s abd 1920s who Dempsey beat:

Jess Willard
Jack Sharky
Georges Carpentier
Tommy Gibbons
Bill Brennan
Luis Firpo
Fred Fulton
Carl Morris
Battling Levinski
Billy Miske
Gunboat Smith
Fireman Flynn

Many of these contenders and champions were destroyed by knockout, often within a handful of rounds, by the Mauler. I'll admit Dempsey's opposition does not stack up to a Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali but it's no worse than Foreman's or Marciano's IMO. If you consider the quality of these wins (weighing knockouts victories over questionable decisions and draws), Dempsey must be considered a top ten heavyweight.

damn thats his resume, it makes marciano's look like gold. He beat gunboat and a firefighter, watch out larry holmes.

[KidDynamite86]

Speaking of Dempsey...the ring that's in my gym is the same ring that Dempsey-Carpentier took place in.

[K-DOGG]

damn thats his resume, it makes marciano's look like gold. He beat gunboat and a firefighter, watch out larry holmes.

Do you really expect fighters to make their living off of just fighting at the turn of the century? I'll tell you this much, I'd put my money on a Fireman and a Gunboat and a Sailor (Tom Sharkey...a few years before) before I'd put it on a "Boxing Banker" or a "Doctor" or a "Surgeon" or maybe even some guy who's "Smokin'"

....they were damn good fighters of their time. Get over the nickname stuff....it's silly.

[brownpimp88]

I know who those guys are, dont try and avoid the truth, its a weak ass resume. You criticize holyfield and others, just look at his, it sucks. Sabbath and I see the same thing when we make our top 10 lists, you dont.

[SABBATH]

I know who those guys are, dont try and avoid the truth, its a weak ass resume. You criticize holyfield and others, just look at his, it sucks. Sabbath and I see the same thing when we make our top 10 lists, you dont.

Gotta face it Dogg. I'm the voice of the new generation.

[brownpimp88]

out of those guys on dempsey's list, only 2 were heavyweight champs. 3 of them are the size of joe calzaghe, and the rest were fringe contenders, i know enough about each person, holyfield has a better resume and he would have outboxed dempsey to a decision with relative ease.