At MW:Is SRR still greater than Monzon and Hagler

[Emon723]

Sugar Ray Robinson has been hailed as the Greatest fighter of all time, pound for pound, at middleweight, is he still greater than Monzon and Hagler, they all had equally impressive lists of fellow greats and hall of famers they faced, but does SRR winning the middleweight title 5 times (only because he keeps on losing it as Monzon pointed out) gets more merit than the consistency of Monzon and Hagler reigning for 7 years, defending the MW title longer (oh yes, modern day great Hopkins made 20 defenses)

[brownpimp88]

Ray Robinson was 65-17-5 at middleweight and he was out of his prime at middleweight. So no, i dont think its fair to rate him number one at both weight classes. I will give that honour to both monzon and hagler.

[K-DOGG]

Sugar Ray Robinson has been hailed as the Greatest fighter of all time, pound for pound, at middleweight, is he still greater than Monzon and Hagler, they all had equally impressive lists of fellow greats and hall of famers they faced, but does SRR winning the middleweight title 5 times (only because he keeps on losing it as Monzon pointed out) gets more merit than the consistency of Monzon and Hagler reigning for 7 years, defending the MW title longer (oh yes, modern day great Hopkins made 20 defenses)

Hagler, yes IMO....Monzon, No.

[Sir_Jose]

Hagler, yes IMO....Monzon, No.

Your saying Monzon was a better fighter than Marvin Hagler?

based on what? please dont say title defenses. Im talking skill. Was he faster? a better better Boxer? Tougher? what?

[butterfly1964]

Ray Robinson was 65-17-5 at middleweight and he was out of his prime at middleweight. So no, i dont think its fair to rate him number one at both weight classes. I will give that honour to both monzon and hagler.

I don't know. He looked pretty impressive against LaMotta in the St. Valentine's day massacre.

[brownpimp88]

I don't know. He looked pretty impressive against LaMotta in the St. Valentine's day massacre.

both are natural 147ers though. U have to respect monzon and hagler, robinson is not the best at both weights.

[butterfly1964]

both are natural 147ers though. U have to respect monzon and hagler, robinson is not the best at both weights.

Who's the both that you're talking about? Hopefully not LaMotta, since he is a rock-solid middleweight.

[brownpimp88]

Who's the both that you're talking about? Hopefully not LaMotta, since he is a rock-solid middleweight.

i thought robinsons first loss ever at 147 was to lamotta.

[Brockton Lip]

i thought robinsons first loss ever at 147 was to lamotta.

Robinson was undefeated at 147. He moved up to Middleweight and his first loss came from Lamotta in their rematch.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Lamotta also was forced to fight at light heavy as he often struggled to make middle in the latter half of his career. Lamotta was in no way a natural 147 pounder.