Grandma LoverSpray_resistant BigBobArum is this a fair assessment of this good champion
a very good but flawed fighter and multi-division success
he’ll win most of his big fights probably 1st ballot hof but the top guys will get the better of him more often than not
I think he’ll finish somewhere between the Miguel to Saul Santos levels
Spray_resistant I will sniff my own fart
When you’re mislabeled a Fat Dave super fan then called a detractor in the very next post
:rofl:
Indicator of a damn good and fair evaluation of his ability level on my part imo
Are you getting paid to take little shots and down play Benavidez every week?
If so, who is paying you? Top Soviet Duck Bivol? In the hopes that we forget he dropped the belt rather than fight Benavidez?
wow , the big benavidez supporter getting shifty before the fight with ZURDO,..!! is he very nervous of the more precision footwork of zurdo. pivot big left,in between unlike morrell!
benavidez getting taking for a dance down in sinaloa. !!
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Not sure how they are comparable? Don't really fight the same either, in fact nobody fights like Benavidez. I can't recall someone with his unique combination of skills and style, the way he can throw hands for a big guy nuts. Plus he has the skill to back it up after growing up as a kid sparring world champions. He is built different.comparable in overall ability not stylistically similar
Miguel was a pressuring boxer-punch who could fight on the back foot
Fat Dave is a bursting swarmer whose volume comes in spurts rather than steady output
Surface level similarities best shot left hook that they love throwing downstairs, good spear jabs, can fade in fights
Not sure how they are comparable? Don't really fight the same either, in fact nobody fights like Benavidez. I can't recall someone with his unique combination of skills and style, the way he can throw hands for a big guy nuts. Plus he has the skill to back it up after growing up as a kid sparring world champions. He is built different.
not ALL
Miguel went 2-3 against hall of famers
wins over Shane and Sexy Sergio
the definition of big fights is subjective of course. the first marg fight against a prime marg was way more important than a faded mosley or crippled sergio fight imo and that fight wouldn't fall under any of those 5 fights. cotto above 147 was pretty mediocre with his only top 5 win being against sergio who was crippled so i would say all his meaningful fights at 140 and 147 were bigger than any fight at 154 even if it was against a guy like floyd, just wasnt a great weight division for him and especially after 2 severe beatdowns that changed his style into a more risk averse kind of fighter that didnt work against guys like floyd or even trout
Miguel Cotto has only lost fights to "all time great fighters, such as Floyd Mayweather Junior and Canelo Alvarez. And he was able to push both fighters in those fights'.Great post
Spray_resistant Austin Trout was a good but definitely not very good fighter who beat Miguel
hence why Fat Dave could still be Miguel Cotto level even if Fat Gilbert beats him clearly
Miguel Cotto fought in a greater boxing divisions, and currently right now? Still has by far better wins on his resume than David Benavidez.
Note: The only factor keeping David Benavidez in the debate, on whether he is an elite level fighter 'is that he is still an undefeated fighter'.
But when you seriously think about it? Benavidez in my opinion is already at his peak, and he still has not great wins on his resume 'he has to start winning big fights now, in order for him to even reach anywhere near the level of Miguel Cotto'.
Miguel Cotto has only lost fights to "all time great fighters, such as Floyd Mayweather Junior and Canelo Alvarez. And he was able to push both fighters in those fights'.
Yes! Cotto was beaten by Antonio Margarito in their first fight 'I am one of the very few people, who don't deny that. I still think it is unclear what exactly Margarito and his team did which was wrong with his hand wraps. Therefore I rate it as a win for Antonio Margarito, and one of the greatest fights of that welter weight era'.
Miguel Cotto at least avenge his lost to Antonio Margarito 'and had awesome career. My favourite won and fight of his, is against Zab Judah'.
To conclude: Overall David Benavidez for me personally is just a fighter, who is hot right now 'the apparent prestige and universal credit he is receiving right now could easily disappear after a single lost because? Unlike Miguel Cotto, his resume to this point does not really suggest that he is an all-time great fighter'.
Canelo Alvarez was the dominant Super Middle Weight fighter of this boxing era 'not Benavidez, he lost his titles because he could no longer make the weight limit. And? He has not been the dominant 175 pound Champion'.
So it is time for him to do something truly great in his career 'to really improve his rating among the great fighters of his era, and past boxing era's etc.
Where does he go if he loses clearly to Fat Gilbert?still around that Miguel level
Miguel has some L’s that he ‘should not’ have taken
but if Fat Dave whoops Fat Gilbert cleaner than Bivol did
Fat Dave PROGESSION towards that Saul Santos caliber?