1. Tyson "2 Fast" Fury - He went by this in his early fights - Apparently, including Chisora 2, which I'm classing as his last fight as 2 Fast.
2. The Gypsy King - The one who beat Wlad, Hammer, Wilder 1, others, but last fight Wallin.
3. Dosser Fury - Wilder 2 onward.
Best performances I'd rank
1. Wilder 2 - Dosser Fury
2. Wlad - The Gypsy King
3. Usyk 1 (SD loss) Dosser Fury
4. Wilder 1 - The Gypsy King
5. Wilder 3 - Dosser Fury
6. Usyk 2 - (Close loss) Dosser Fury
7. Chisora 2 - Tyson "2 Fast" Fury
8. Whyte - Dosser Fury
9. Chisora 3 - Dosser Fury
10, Cunningham - Tyson "2 Fast" Fury
For Nash, even though Dosser Fury has done great things, I'd still tip The Gypsy King to beat The Dosser. The 1/2 here was a toss up, but as it was Wilder's first class, there it goes, but I'd have Gypsy King 1-2 Fave to beat Dosser Fury in a fight, if they ever do fight, I'd be placing my money on Gypsy King Fury to beat Dosser Fury, but both would definitely beat 2 Fast. Nash out - His Majesty
You left out Version 4: Retired Fury. That was his peak for me.
This version is Twitter Fury.
Usyk beating Fury was a great thing. Can you imagine if he'd somehow won the first fight? The rematch wouldn't have happened and we would have had Fury on Twitter forever talking about how he could come back and beat all these dossers with one arm tied behind his back.
Now he just pops up on the eve of big events and tells us how much he likes being retired. It's a much better version of Twitter Fury.
The version who beat Wlad for me.
I'd say so as well. That was Fury at his physical peak, and when he'd mastered his style with Peter Fury. His attributes have massively declined in recent years, even going back 7+ years, which contributed to his change in style. His demolition of a then-unbeaten Wilder was his second-best win. Nobody else was doing that to Wilder at that point in time. I think the 3rd Fury-Wilder fight, as good as it was, took a great deal from both men. Nash out - His Majesty
Most likely the version who fought Wladimir Kiltschko and won 'Yes it was a underwhelming fight, and actually closer than many people would like to acknowledge. But at that time in Kiltschko's career, he seemed like the boxing version of Edwin Moses. There was just a aura about Wladimir Kiltschko, that he could maintain his style and performance level and dominate for many more years'.
Note: Tyson Fury to his credit was the first Heavyweight fighter, for almost a decade to breach the defenses of the Kiltschko occupation of the Heavyweight division 'and then of course as you all know? It was Anthony Joshua 17 months later, who fought the version of Wladimir Kiltschko that Tyson Fury should have fought in their scheduled rematch which he pulled out of twice unfortunately due to his then circumstance'.
I know this thread is not about Anthony Joshua, but I am just hammering home the fact that 'Anthony Joshua stepped up and beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should have defended his titles against. It was Joshua who conclusively won the battle vs Wladimir Kiltschko, knocking him out in the greatest heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years. Conclusively taking the Heavyweight Divisions into a completely new dynasty'.
To conclude: But in regards to Tyson Fury, skill for skill and in terms of conditioning 'you would have to rate the version of Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Kiltschko as the best. Wladimir Kiltschko is a greater heavyweight fighter and champion than Deontay Wilder, I rate Kiltschko as one of the true last all-time great Heavyweight Champions. The statistics of his heavyweight reign are super impressive, as he beat all of his nearest competition'.
It was injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko a Champion for close to a decade 'was denied the opportunity to win back his titles vs Tyson Fury II. And I have always been adamant that Wladimir Kiltschko would have beaten Tyson Fury in the rematch'.
In all the pre-fight build up for the rematch between Tyson Fury and Wladimir Kiltschko II 'I was impressed with Kiltschko, he had a similar aura and attitude to Lennox Lewis when he was preparing for his rematch vs Hasim Rahman II. Tyson Fury achieved a great win in beating Wladimir Kilschko, but he did not really embodied being a heavyweight champion back then. And I have always stated that Fury does not enjoy being a Champion, with all the mandates and requirements which come along with it'.
Even Tyson Fury's own team and family have stated 'he is at his best when he is chasing a target, and is the underdog. Pre - Wladimir Kilschko, and pre - Deontay Wilder II. Those are the best version of Tyson Fury as a fighter' etc.
Yes, I agree with your thoughts, and Wlad vs Joshua was a great fight. I believe Wlad would have stopped Joshua when he had him badly hurt and didn't push it enough, but what happened happened and it was a great fight. I saw Fury vs Wlad rematch as a 50-50. I think it would have been a more exciting battle than the first, which was still a great fight from a technical viewpoint. Fury was superb, and Wlad did very well also, just Fury at the time with his extra agility and speed, that he no longer has, was a difficult man to fully track down. He'd shown his improvements in the 2-3 fights prior to Wlad. Had Fury fought Wlad in 2011-2013, he would have got splattered, as he was still working on his style then.
Fury, Wlad, and Joshua were all great fighters. Joshua is becoming underrated over time I believe. Nash out - His Majesty
Most likely the version who fought Wladimir Kiltschko and won 'Yes it was a underwhelming fight, and actually closer than many people would like to acknowledge. But at that time in Kiltschko's career, he seemed like the boxing version of Edwin Moses. There was just a aura about Wladimir Kiltschko, that he could maintain his style and performance level and dominate for many more years'.
Note: Tyson Fury to his credit was the first Heavyweight fighter, for almost a decade to breach the defenses of the Kiltschko occupation of the Heavyweight division 'and then of course as you all know? It was Anthony Joshua 17 months later, who fought the version of Wladimir Kiltschko that Tyson Fury should have fought in their scheduled rematch which he pulled out of twice unfortunately due to his then circumstance'.
I know this thread is not about Anthony Joshua, but I am just hammering home the fact that 'Anthony Joshua stepped up and beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should have defended his titles against. It was Joshua who conclusively won the battle vs Wladimir Kiltschko, knocking him out in the greatest heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years. Conclusively taking the Heavyweight Divisions into a completely new dynasty'.
To conclude: But in regards to Tyson Fury, skill for skill and in terms of conditioning 'you would have to rate the version of Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Kiltschko as the best. Wladimir Kiltschko is a greater heavyweight fighter and champion than Deontay Wilder, I rate Kiltschko as one of the true last all-time great Heavyweight Champions. The statistics of his heavyweight reign are super impressive, as he beat all of his nearest competition'.
It was injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko a Champion for close to a decade 'was denied the opportunity to win back his titles vs Tyson Fury II. And I have always been adamant that Wladimir Kiltschko would have beaten Tyson Fury in the rematch'.
In all the pre-fight build up for the rematch between Tyson Fury and Wladimir Kiltschko II 'I was impressed with Kiltschko, he had a similar aura and attitude to Lennox Lewis when he was preparing for his rematch vs Hasim Rahman II. Tyson Fury achieved a great win in beating Wladimir Kilschko, but he did not really embodied being a heavyweight champion back then. And I have always stated that Fury does not enjoy being a Champion, with all the mandates and requirements which come along with it'.
Even Tyson Fury's own team and family have stated 'he is at his best when he is chasing a target, and is the underdog. Pre - Wladimir Kilschko, and pre - Deontay Wilder II. Those are the best version of Tyson Fury as a fighter' etc.
All jokes aside he is a good fighter and if he dedicates himself he can win some meaningful fights.
We need to see what Tyson Fury 4.0 has to offer. And it will be interesting to see if he returns as a Heel or a Face. He has had success as both, but I'd say when he returned as a Face after many years out, that was his peak popularity, then Heel Dosser took over. Nash out - His Majesty
Tyson Fury's retirement surprised us all, but Nash believes Fury will stun us with an unretirement. Nash out - His Majesty
All jokes aside he is a good fighter and if he dedicates himself he can win some meaningful fights.
Probably the juiced version of Fury was best around the Wladimir Klitschko win. He popped dirty for steroids only a few months before he fought Wladimir. Should have been auto-banned but somehow was allowed to go straight into a world title fight, months after failing a drug test for steroids. And then again got popped leading up to the rematch, for coke that time. That's why he pretended to retire with the whole "mental health" excuse so he avoided getting stripped of all his titles by manipulating the system.
Fury Juiced.0 takes the career crown.
False information. The way you've posted this you;ve made it seem like it affected the Fury vs Wlad fight. It did not. Now if you feel Hammer would have beaten Fury, then that's another argument, though, I certainly don't see that under any circumstance. I think Fury could beat Hammer after 15 pints and 4 Kebabs. He passed every test for Wlad. It was revealed after Wlad that he failed for Hammer. So, perhaps, Fury vs Hammer is your fave version of Fury. Nash out - His Majesty
Fury was never going to beat Usyk. Ppl hold Usyk to higher standards as the new kid on the block walking through all contenders like in a video game but that is not reality, it takes 2 the make a fight and Fury as the one that was avoiding the fight, by going on the backfoot using his lanky assets as much as possible and be as frustrating as possible in his own way. Usyk slowly cooked him and turned on the gas when necessary, basically beat Fury on 80%-85%.
Fury was never going to beat Usyk, Usyk whole gameplan was cooking him slowely, even held back on the KO punch in rd 9. Checkout the comments of Lennox Lewis around those fights he even mentioned you cannot appoach a HW fight recklessly since it leaves you open to danger, Usyk slowly cooked him and turned on the gas when necessary, basically beat Fury on 80%-85%.
Probably the juiced version of Fury was best around the Wladimir Klitschko win. He popped dirty for steroids only a few months before he fought Wladimir. Should have been auto-banned but somehow was allowed to go straight into a world title fight, months after failing a drug test for steroids. And then again got popped leading up to the rematch, for coke that time. That's why he pretended to retire with the whole "mental health" excuse so he avoided getting stripped of all his titles by manipulating the system.
Fury Juiced.0 takes the career crown.
fury hunted down klit & wilder but he was hunted down himself by usyk, all his middle weight dosser came back to bite him on his big ass in the end, to be fair he did put up a good fight in fight 1 if i remember & im sure the wilder smacks to the head affected him as well so all in all not bad but turned into a bit of a diva with usyk i think, greedybelly was born
It could be debated that after Fury 1.0 (2 Fast) 2.0 (Gypsy King) and 3.0 (Dosser) that 4.0 is (Greedy Belly). Nash out - His Majesty
The retired one especially when you don't hear from him.
Tyson Fury's retirement surprised us all, but Nash believes Fury will stun us with an unretirement. Nash out - His Majesty
fury hunted down klit & wilder but he was hunted down himself by usyk, all his middle weight dosser came back to bite him on his big ass in the end, to be fair he did put up a good fight in fight 1 if i remember & im sure the wilder smacks to the head affected him as well so all in all not bad but turned into a bit of a diva with usyk i think, greedybelly was born
I liked Dosser Fury, just eating pies gaining weight and using that weight to push bean pole Wilder around.
Dosser Fury was/is a true warrior, but Nash feels like it's time for the 4th version of Fury now. Dosser is played, we need Fury 4.0. Nash out - His Majesty
Agree with almost of all of that. Except I thought the first 2 rounds were very clear Usyk rounds. People struggled to accept that he was at least as damaging to Fury as the shots he received in return. 11 and 12 were better from Fury but really only in relation to where he'd been in round 9.
I still think the Fury villain schtick would have got old quickly when he was pretty uninteresting to watch in the ring.
The evolution of his style made him far more interesting to watch but I'm not sure he was a better fighter for it. Even the first Wilder fight was a big surprise. I was confident even a 50% Fury would just outbox Wilder to a dull points decision. And then of course he went on his Kronk journey and became more interesting.
I thought Usyk vs Fury 1 was a great fight, the second, not so much. Fury made Usyk work, but was in no condition to do any damage or last properly for 12 Rounds. Second half of the fight he was on empty, though he competed till the end, the fight didn't live up to the first and I think Fury got it wrong in terms of weight and style, and it was evident he entered the ring with zero plan B.
It's hard to say, I mean if he kept entertaining outside of the ring but winning inside, then he could have kept going. Even Mayweather, as good as he was, was not entertaining at all to the casuals, yet many casuals tuned in to see him, whether to win or lose.
Yes, I agree, his style evolution was interesting, and perhaps a credit to his skills that he was still very good fighting in a completely different way, and in a way that to some extents negated his reach, outside fighting, and jab, and he showed very good inside work, that despite not being a massive puncher (he still has power obviously), he could still get quality operators out of there. Wilder at the time, Chisora at the time, Whyte at the time, all good stoppage wins.
He's had a great career still, and who knows, could be another part to his journey left. Doubt it will happen, but I'd be highly intrigued by Fury vs Moses Itauma. The unknown that would surround that fight would be box Office. Nash out - His Majesty