James Toney says he would KO Prime Mike Tyson :0

So it's a prime Mike Tyson vs non prime James toney Yes, exactly. Hence why your idea that he has any kind of chance is comical.

So it's a prime Mike Tyson vs non prime James toney James never came out and said he would had beaten prime tyson at his career at heavyweight ( not prime toney) or his actually prime at 168 vs a prime heavyweight tyson. Thats up to you to decide if you agree with neither notion. Toney could had been talking in general that he could had beaten prime Tyson in regardless of the situation.

Because I don't know if you missed it but the video and thus discussion is referring to a prime Mike Tyson. So it's a prime Mike Tyson vs non prime James toney

Oh ok cool so the toney from the Sam peter fight vs the Tyson who got knocked out by Kevin McBride then What why wouldn't we be talking about that version of Tyson? Because I don't know if you missed it but the video and thus discussion is referring to a prime Mike Tyson.

Ok. And? That's the HW version of Toney. Assume that, why? Why would assume you're talking about anything but the HW version of Toney in a discussion about Toney, at Heavyweight? Oh ok cool so the toney from the Sam peter fight vs the Tyson who got knocked out by Kevin McBride then What why wouldn't we be talking about that version of Tyson?

He aint KO prime Dave Tiberi at 160 :lol1:

Not a chance. Prime Mike was too fast and hit too hard. Toney was at his best at Cruiserweight IMO.

Toney was WAY past his prime by the time he moved up to heavyweight Ok. And? That's the HW version of Toney. I'm assuming we are talking about a young pre CTE toney vs a prime Tyson Not prime Tyson vs shot old toney Mike Tyson lost to Jake Paul btw. Assume that, why? Why would assume you're talking about anything but the HW version of Toney in a discussion about Toney, at Heavyweight?

Prime Tyson with Rooney sorry JT no

James been eating too much BBQ lately; it's affecting his brain....what's left of it.

This turned out to be a really good insightful debate. Thanks everyone.

A prime, James Toney would absolutely frustrate Mike Tyson with his defense.

NihonJim You mean real HWs of high repute at the time? Toney is 5'9 and was a flabby 220ish at HW with no real power how is he going to hold Tyson off? Especially recently I thought we had disproved size at heavyweight meaning that much. Toney is 5'9" Tyson 5'10" Toney doesn't need to stop Tyson just frustrated him enough that he has a mental breakdown and foul himself out of the fight, I think toney can do it.

You need a brain to think. Which would explain this incredibly dumb opinion. Toney was very talented. But he wasnt a heavyweight. Sure tyson has beat heavyweights who would beat toney because of size, but Toney was better pfp is what im getting at, im not implying toney has a resume of anything at heavyweight or achieved much there. So tyson beats toney, you agree dont you?

No you are buying the myth. The myth that James Toney is anything but garbage at HW. Can’t bear Sam Peter in two tries or a passed it Hasim Rahman and somehow you have him beating a prime Mike Tyson :lol1: That is non sensical and not based any where near reality. He showed nothing in his career at any point that he could even beat a capable HW in the worst era in HW history, let alone an elite HW, let alone a prime Mike Tyson. Toney was WAY past his prime by the time he moved up to heavyweight I'm assuming we are talking about a young pre CTE toney vs a prime Tyson Not prime Tyson vs shot old toney Mike Tyson lost to Jake Paul btw.

Strongly disagree You dudes are still buying the myth Half of Tysons power came from his intimidation, most of his opponents in the 80s went in the ring on the verge of a panic attack gulping down air, shaking. As soon as he threw a combination they found a safe place on the floor. As soon as Tyson stepped up to world level and fought a guy who had zero fear of him (Holyfield) all of a sudden Tyson can't punch no more. Tyson vs Toney is one of the most overrated fighters of all time vs one of the most underrated. I give the edge to Toney. He would likely give Mike a mental breakdown in the build up when Mike realizes he can't bully him. No you are buying the myth. The myth that James Toney is anything but garbage at HW. Can’t bear Sam Peter in two tries or a passed it Hasim Rahman and somehow you have him beating a prime Mike Tyson :lol1: That is non sensical and not based any where near reality. He showed nothing in his career at any point that he could even beat a capable HW in the worst era in HW history, let alone an elite HW, let alone a prime Mike Tyson.

Every fighter who went the distance with Mike Tyson during that time frame would beat James Toney at HW easily; James Tillis Bonecrusher Smith Tony Tucker Razor Ruddock Strongly disagree You dudes are still buying the myth Half of Tysons power came from his intimidation, most of his opponents in the 80s went in the ring on the verge of a panic attack gulping down air, shaking. As soon as he threw a combination they found a safe place on the floor. As soon as Tyson stepped up to world level and fought a guy who had zero fear of him (Holyfield) all of a sudden Tyson can't punch no more. Tyson vs Toney is one of the most overrated fighters of all time vs one of the most underrated. I give the edge to Toney. He would likely give Mike a mental breakdown in the build up when Mike realizes he can't bully him.

Think about guys who went he distance with prime Mike Tyson, I think Tyson to blast toney out early is a wild pick, far less skilled fighters than toney went the distance. ^^^^^^^^^^^

Think about guys who went he distance with prime Mike Tyson, I think Tyson to blast toney out early is a wild pick, far less skilled fighters than toney went the distance. Every fighter who went the distance with Mike Tyson during that time frame would beat James Toney at HW easily; James Tillis Bonecrusher Smith Tony Tucker Razor Ruddock

I am a big fan of Toney and he is more skilled in many ways than Mike who is 1 diminesional but he had so much natural talent that he would blow Toney out in a rd or 2 at best. Think about guys who went he distance with prime Mike Tyson, I think Tyson to blast toney out early is a wild pick, far less skilled fighters than toney went the distance.