What sort of credit does Devin get becoming undisputed again at 147?

Haney will never get credit from the haters because it's a mix of the 2 worst fanbases in boxing, The Floyd/Haymon nuthuggers & The Canelo stans.

Ryan Garcia !

Haney should just focus on fighting the other champions at 147, Rolly and Crocker are fights he wins by shut out. Preferably if Garcia beats Barrios, get that rematch. Other than that he's got Conor Benn for big money that I doubt he loses a round in. Or, move up, where it likely get's tough for him. Benn ain't making 147, he's kidding himself. By the next time he fights it will have been four years since he made welterweight.

Undisputed doesn't mean much to me these days unless you've beaten the best of the best in the division. I care far more about matchups.

Haney should just focus on fighting the other champions at 147, Rolly and Crocker are fights he wins by shut out. Preferably if Garcia beats Barrios, get that rematch. Other than that he's got Conor Benn for big money that I doubt he loses a round in. Or, move up, where it likely get's tough for him.

Norman jr. was really bad. Haney beat him like nothing.

You can prepare for it, see Usyk vs Fury, Usyk wasn't running away from the clinch but he learned how to deal with it, roll fury off and punish him for trying to initiate it. Yeah but one key difference there was that Fury was trying to use the clinch to lean on Usyk and tire him out, not just as a plea for the referee to break them. Haney holds on for dear life with his only aim being to get the ref to intervene. Another major difference is that Usyk was having no trouble pinning Fury down (understandable given the size of him), so it didn't have the same cat and mouse dynamic as a Haney fight. That's the problem with fighting Haney, you spend so long trying to maneuver him into a vulnerable position so that you can enter punching range without letting him sting you with a jab and circle off, then when you finally do see an opportunity and take the risk, he immediately latches on like an octopus and the ref puts you back to square one. That's why it's hard to blame the guy who is coming forward and taking all the risks IMO, because he's essentially being cheated out of his payoff every time he successfully closes the gap and is in position to punch. But I do agree that Usyk was well prepared for the clinch. Lomachenko too, when he fought Haney.

Who did prograis beat that was elite ? As for Ramirez hes trash like Commey the fraud. No shade. Both of these guys were B level fighters among C-D level fighters. None of them are great. They were just title holders. Commey lost every time he stepped up. but u said taylor gets the least credit for his undisputed with bud the most and devin if he does it the 2nd, which of their title unification opponents are great then? for bud dulorme postol and indongo dont seem the hottest ticket in town either and lets not get started on haneys lot he might have lined up indongo did nothing after bud, he lost to prograis next fight, postol lost to josh taylor 2 fights later & lost to ramirez later on as well & same with dulorme and his opponents

not a fan of taylor but ill make a case for him undefeated prograis at the time who went on 5 wins & 4 stoppages after taylor undefeated ramirez at the time who went on to beat pedraza & commey next fights Who did prograis beat that was elite ? As for Ramirez hes trash like Commey the fraud. No shade. Both of these guys were B level fighters among C-D level fighters. None of them are great. They were just title holders. Commey lost every time he stepped up.

Devin was about to prove the haters wrong, by standing his ground for the first few rounds. Then he immediately went back into the same old Devin Huggies Haney mode. That's who he is. He can't fight thr same way as TC, Inoue, Usyk, and the other top guys...

will it be as great as floyd vs baldomir and judah(coming off a loss to baldomir)? that was an epic run. prime margarito? no. prime cotto? no. prime pac? no.

has devins pops said crown him as the greatest ever yet

norman jr ducked his way into this fight. it pays to duck folks. please do it more

The thing is though, unless they're equally as fleet of foot as Haney is like, say, Lomachenko, what can they really do? You can prepare for it, see Usyk vs Fury, Usyk wasn't running away from the clinch but he learned how to deal with it, roll fury off and punish him for trying to initiate it. No boxer should HAVE to do that btw, but if there's a notorious clincher at the top of your weight class, then doing a wrestling session now and then isn't a bad idea. Drove me nuts how for 10 years Wlad was heavyweight champion not one of his opponents did anything to prepare for his clinching. Like if you are a contender you know you will probably fight the guy at some point, maybe put in some work to take his infamous tactic away.

So 1 or maybe 2 points should have been deducted from Haney for excessive holding. However, on my score card, he still would have won if that was the case. It did ruin the fight and made it nearly impossible for Norman to land a clean body shot inside. Eddie Hearn was right talking about how the fans don't want to see this type of fighter who does all of the weasily tricks to win a fight. A lot of running, holding, and avoiding engagement. Is he a cheater? Yes. Is he a World Champion? Yes. But he's still a cheater.

Not as bad when Josh Taylor became undisputed at 140lb. Looking back. Those fighters were sub par. not a fan of taylor but ill make a case for him undefeated prograis at the time who went on 5 wins & 4 stoppages after taylor undefeated ramirez at the time who went on to beat pedraza & commey next fights

More credit then Josh Taylor but less than Crawford. Haney can walk right in to the hall of fame right now!

its shockingly bad at 147 Not as bad when Josh Taylor became undisputed at 140lb. Looking back. Those fighters were sub par.

He'll get the same credit Bud got at 140.

i think good credit, you have to be of a certain standard and consistency even in weaker divisions, sometimes a potentially weaker opponent can cause issues as well & even show they were not so weak in future fights too if u are good enough then half the battle is actually getting the fights arranged and done, bud crawford gave out about arum in the end for example but did arum not deliver him his fights to gain his titles and his status & pay him about 3 mil a fight for a lot of them as well, thats not that easy to do