What has happened to the Charlo brothers?

Any news yet regarding the Charlo bros' come back fights?

Any news yet regarding the Charlo bros' comeback fights?

doesnt everyone need huge lucrative fights, why would these 2 lemons i mean lions deserve them any more than anyone else? They need lucrative fights if they want to come back. Nobody says they deserve lucrative fights.

They need huge lucrative fights at this stage of their careers. doesnt everyone need huge lucrative fights, why would these 2 lemons i mean lions deserve them any more than anyone else?

So have the Charlos retired? Doesn't make sense asking for tuneups at this late stage of their careers getting paid peanuts. Granting they get their tuneup fights, then what? Spend another year for the next fight? I don't know man. They're certainly not getting any younger. They need huge lucrative fights at this stage of their careers. Tuneups are a waste of time. The paycheck is not even enough to cover training expenses. Just imagine all that effort doing all that training with zero net income. Then what? Wait for another year?

So have the Charlos retired? Doesn't make sense asking for tuneups at this late stage of their careers getting paid peanuts. Granting they get their tuneup fights, then what? Spend another year for the next fight?

Mell got his bag then embarrassed by Bud. Mall got a baggy in his pocket and hes now called Pookie

I heard they're opening a rib joint. :rolleyes:

Real fighters don't have that kind of mindset. They think in terms of winning, being crafty, tricky, able to inflict damage, etc. Otherwise, you don't belong in the sport with that kind of mentality. Go get a regular job and don't even think of contact sports as a profession. I don’t mean that they are worried about losing/being humiliated before they go into the sport. What I mean is that WHEN they lose (IF they lose), that more than the pain they might be feeling, it’s the embarrassment of being pummeled in front of the whole world and being cheered for you having been pummeled that stings much more…ditto for those that hang around too much around social media. I’m sure Haney was hearing the whispers for the better part of a year and a half since his loss to Ryan. Can you imagine Shakur or Claressa Shields taking an L? They’d be forced to do a social media purge.

Real fighters don't have that kind of mindset. They think in terms of winning, being crafty, tricky, able to inflict damage, etc. Otherwise, you don't belong in the sport with that kind of mentality. Go get a regular job and don't even think of contact sports as a profession. Exactly. You don't blame things that's been part of human behavior since time immemorial. You''ve seen it in Gladiator movies. You lose, and some in the audience would cheer because they rooted for it to happen. If you can't take it, then boxing is not for you. Simple as that. People didn't force you to be in this profession. You did.

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What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it. Real fighters don't have that kind of mindset. They think in terms of winning, being crafty, tricky, able to inflict damage, etc. Otherwise, you don't belong in the sport with that kind of mentality. Go get a regular job and don't even think of contact sports as a profession.

There’s a great quote that I read not too long ago in one of Thomas Hauser’s books. In it, I believe he quoted Floyd Patterson when he said that what fighters fear most is not necessarily the pain or another fighter per se. What they fear most is the sensation of being embarrassed in front of others… …which is essentially what it’s like to be losing in a fight. You can’t rely on team-mates, you can’t call for a timeout, you can’t lie back and coast. You’re essentially bare in front of thousands (maybe millions) and every little thing is magnified. It’s a lot of pressure and it’s why I believe this sport is more brutal than it looks. You can be the most chiseled, strongest brute when you step in the ring, but if the mental makeup of a fighter isn’t there, then strength and power mean jack. If Jermell had fought again by now he could’ve salvaged his career, but right now it might be Jermell of all people to be more in the public’s good graces than his brother…boxing is quite fickle. What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it. tank davis disagrees with this statement..........

There’s a great quote that I read not too long ago in one of Thomas Hauser’s books. In it, I believe he quoted Floyd Patterson when he said that what fighters fear most is not necessarily the pain or another fighter per se. What they fear most is the sensation of being embarrassed in front of others… …which is essentially what it’s like to be losing in a fight. You can’t rely on team-mates, you can’t call for a timeout, you can’t lie back and coast. You’re essentially bare in front of thousands (maybe millions) and every little thing is magnified. It’s a lot of pressure and it’s why I believe this sport is more brutal than it looks. You can be the most chiseled, strongest brute when you step in the ring, but if the mental makeup of a fighter isn’t there, then strength and power mean jack. If Jermell had fought again by now he could’ve salvaged his career, but right now it might be Jermell of all people to be more in the public’s good graces than his brother…boxing is quite fickle. What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it. Joe Frazier wrote the same in his book fighters fear being humiliated beat so bad that they performed poorly Fighters are wired differently from normal people who fear getting ko’d they enjoy fighting too. Most don’t despite the bravado

They got personal issues and continue to surround themselves with toxic women that pit them against one another. They from houston right? So business as usual.

Probably too much money too early and alchohol/drugs. Its a real shame too, they reminded me a of Terry Norris a bit early on. I guess they are in their mid 30s now and have let some real promise slip away.

One of them might go into the hall of fame. The other one is undefeated & rich with mental health issues. Thats pretty much it.

Being "rich" is a relative, subjective term. Canelo got prime real estate properties in Mexico and America, and can retire without having to box again. Yet he's still fighting. The Charlos barely scratched the surface in accumulating wealth out of their boxing profession. They have kids to feed, send to school till they become independent. Not to mention the money they need in their old age. Needs are unlimited. Resources are not.Mexican fighters glory driven AmeriBlacks are too but more money focused than the Mexicans

They're supposed to be active fighting in the higher weight divisions. It would seem they have lost all sense of purpose in the boxing career they chose to be in. I think it all goes to boxing being a different sport where losing is so huge a deal. Tank Davis himself admitted worrying about getting embarrassed losing. There’s a great quote that I read not too long ago in one of Thomas Hauser’s books. In it, I believe he quoted Floyd Patterson when he said that what fighters fear most is not necessarily the pain or another fighter per se. What they fear most is the sensation of being embarrassed in front of others… …which is essentially what it’s like to be losing in a fight. You can’t rely on team-mates, you can’t call for a timeout, you can’t lie back and coast. You’re essentially bare in front of thousands (maybe millions) and every little thing is magnified. It’s a lot of pressure and it’s why I believe this sport is more brutal than it looks. You can be the most chiseled, strongest brute when you step in the ring, but if the mental makeup of a fighter isn’t there, then strength and power mean jack. If Jermell had fought again by now he could’ve salvaged his career, but right now it might be Jermell of all people to be more in the public’s good graces than his brother…boxing is quite fickle. What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it.

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