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I hear you, the rankings suck. But actual fans, who can see him box, know that Bakole was in on hours notice, with no training, no gloves, no sleep. Saw Parker struggling with Zhang etc. should not have been ranking him number 2 and demanding he gets Usyk. Complete mismatch. Anyone should have been able to see that.

Well it's all opinion isn't it? Point I'm making is that Parker was never the 2nd best heavyweight. Doesn't matter what ranking system said that. Just watching him is enough to understand that he simply loses to a lot of heavyweights. And anyway, really we're talking fan rankings. Anyone who truly believed he was the 2nd best heavyweight is wild imo. There's so much evidence to show he's not close. It's a ranking rather than an assessment of ability. I'd have both Joshua and Fury ahead of Parker but that's not an option if they're not fighting. He got his ranking by beating Wilder, Zhang and Bakole. I'm certain that there are other fighters (eg the ones you've mentioned) in the division who could have done that... but they didn't and Parker did. You can only rank fighters on the fights they take.

Well it's all opinion isn't it? Point I'm making is that Parker was never the 2nd best heavyweight. Doesn't matter what ranking system said that. Just watching him is enough to understand that he simply loses to a lot of heavyweights. And anyway, really we're talking fan rankings. Anyone who truly believed he was the 2nd best heavyweight is wild imo. There's so much evidence to show he's not close. Fury is probably still the second best heavyweight but TBRB decided to take him at his word when he said he was retired, same as they did in 2023.

Saying his wins were not impressive is subjective as is your opinion that his ranking was 'not good'. I think it was defensible compared with the merits of the rest of the remaining ten. That's all that matters when comparing the ranking with the sanctioning bodies. Boxrec is useful for record keeping (although their petulance over the WBA is irritating) but their points based ranking system has always been dubious. AJ was dropped from the rankings due to a year of inactivity which is standard TBRB practice. Hrgovic is only two fights removed from the loss to DDD, and his wins over Joyce and Adeleye are not exceptional. Leaving DDD at #1 after losing to Usyk is an argument with merit. Kabayel being #1 is a reasonable argument too. Given Parker (#1) just lost to Wardley (#8) they may well switch places. I personally wouldn't place Parker below Ajagba; #5 (above Chisora) seems about right. Well it's all opinion isn't it? Point I'm making is that Parker was never the 2nd best heavyweight. Doesn't matter what ranking system said that. Just watching him is enough to understand that he simply loses to a lot of heavyweights. And anyway, really we're talking fan rankings. Anyone who truly believed he was the 2nd best heavyweight is wild imo. There's so much evidence to show he's not close.

He did exactly that in Round 2 when he had Parker on the verge of being knocked out. The ref saved him and gave him a ton of time to recover. The difference in Round 11 was Parker was almost knocked out in 10 too. That was 5 minutes of no response, no punches, no legs. It was time. He got hurt at the end of Round 10, not sure framing it as almost knocked out is accurate. If you watch that last 20 seconds he slips all of wardleys follow up attack. That is clearly a response. No response would be him standing there taking punches. He moved around the ring using his legs and also his upper body to avoid the punches. Are you counting the minute between rounds as time Parker isn't throwing punches? How could he? Attack his trainer? Parker was throwing punches in the 11th so thats not even correct anyway. He threw numerous jabs and even after he got hurt he threw a big left hook and then he threw 2 punches 2 seconds before tbe fight was stopped so saying no punches is just not true. I didnt know there was a punch quota in boxing. Yeah 3 punches in 20 seconds isn't going to win you many rounds but when a guy with better power is emptying his tank do you really want to open yourself up in that moment? Ironically Parker preventing himself from getting knocked out got him knocked out(on paper)

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I'm simply telling you that the ranking was not good. Why is that a problem for you? You can quote them all you want, but it was wrong. Anyone who thought Parker should be ranked highly was... Wrong. His wins were not even impressive. He looked like the loser v Zhang and different judges he would've been. Sometimes there's more to rankings that looking at a record on Boxrec. People who do that wouldn't even know that Parker was really 1-1 with Chisora. To answer the question, DDD, Kabayel, Hrgovic, AJ should all be higher than Parker. Parker should be about level with Zhang, he barely nicked the win, it was more to do with Zhang not throwing than Parker winning, so 5th/6th is probably about right pre-Wardley. Now, 8/9. Saying his wins were not impressive is subjective as is your opinion that his ranking was 'not good'. I think it was defensible compared with the merits of the rest of the remaining ten. That's all that matters when comparing the ranking with the sanctioning bodies. Boxrec is useful for record keeping (although their petulance over the WBA is irritating) but their points based ranking system has always been dubious. AJ was dropped from the rankings due to a year of inactivity which is standard TBRB practice. Hrgovic is only two fights removed from the loss to DDD, and his wins over Joyce and Adeleye are not exceptional. Leaving DDD at #1 after losing to Usyk is an argument with merit. Kabayel being #1 is a reasonable argument too. Given Parker (#1) just lost to Wardley (#8) they may well switch places. I personally wouldn't place Parker below Ajagba; #5 (above Chisora) seems about right.

Is your adrenaline up and causing you to not read posts properly or perhaps you're a naturally confrontational person? I said he was there by 'default' which is generally not considered complimentary. I was just attempting to give a sober rationale for why he was there. A case could be made for Kabayel being #1 but who else? I'm simply telling you that the ranking was not good. Why is that a problem for you? You can quote them all you want, but it was wrong. Anyone who thought Parker should be ranked highly was... Wrong. His wins were not even impressive. He looked like the loser v Zhang and different judges he would've been. Sometimes there's more to rankings that looking at a record on Boxrec. People who do that wouldn't even know that Parker was really 1-1 with Chisora. To answer the question, DDD, Kabayel, Hrgovic, AJ should all be higher than Parker. Parker should be about level with Zhang, he barely nicked the win, it was more to do with Zhang not throwing than Parker winning, so 5th/6th is probably about right pre-Wardley. Now, 8/9.

Wardley knows he can get a stoppage at any time simply by throwing punches and foster will jump in. That is a huge advantage to have in your back pocket. You can fight freely, drop rounds, go for big shots only, conserve energy, etc...then wait for the time to "go for it" then after the fight flood the media with hypotheticals and counter factuals about what could have or would have happened while ignoring what did happen in reality which is not getting a legit stoppage He did exactly that in Round 2 when he had Parker on the verge of being knocked out. The ref saved him and gave him a ton of time to recover. The difference in Round 11 was Parker was almost knocked out in 10 too. That was 5 minutes of no response, no punches, no legs. It was time.

And? So they are very open to hype as well. Joe Joyce beat the living daylight out of Parker. Made him question life itself. Show how limited and poor these ranking are. 'Based on merit'. Yet anyone who actually watches boxing could see that Parker was just a guy in the right place at the right time. He's barely top 10. Even in his win v Zhang he looked like the loser. Rematch Bakole with a training camp. I dare him. Is your adrenaline up and causing you to not read posts properly or perhaps you're a naturally confrontational person? I said he was there by 'default' which is generally not considered complimentary. I was just attempting to give a sober rationale for why he was there. A case could be made for Kabayel being #1 but who else?

Wardley knows he can get a stoppage at any time simply by throwing punches and foster will jump in. That is a huge advantage to have in your back pocket. You can fight freely, drop rounds, go for big shots only, conserve energy, etc...then wait for the time to "go for it" then after the fight flood the media with hypotheticals and counter factuals about what could have or would have happened while ignoring what did happen in reality which is not getting a legit stoppage

I agree with plenty of what you say but he's been a top 10 heavyweight for a long time. That doesn't happen by fluke and it's not like he was carefully managed through match making... he's never been box office and only ever got what his results in the ring deserved. He's beaten Takam, Chisora, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang and Bakole. I know that's not exactly murderers row but it's a pretty solid resume for a contender. He's a good size and a good fighter. Not outstanding but a level ahead of the average fringe contender. Against Wardley he just got beaten by someone with a few exceptional attributes that he couldn't match. Not many hit like Wardley and despite Parker not being the heaviest handed in the division, not many would be able to take what he landed and fire back. I'd love to see him in with Huni to get a sense of where they're both at. I agree that Huni would win plenty of rounds but it's a fight that Parker could win by experience and toughness. Huni really doesn't seem to have either. Guess we disagree on what average means. You might be talking about in general, in which case I agree, he obviously above average. If talking about the best at the division, he's pretty bang average. He's 1-1 with Chisora, that's about his level. I wouldn't want to fight him, but against the best he'll lose a lot. Huni would outbox him for sure. Parker can't beat anyone who pressures him or is faster than him. He hasn't got the feet or attitude to do it. Not sure he does win any rounds. I'd even go as far as saying he only has punchers chance - and he doesn't hit hard... But Huni's chin is sketchy, so it'll be a fun watch as Jutis could be knocked out at any moment. Might as well also throw in that I think Andy Lee sucks too. These two are so overhyped. Andy Lee as a tactician is very poor. His boxers don't seem to adapt well. They haven't even mastered the Kronk jab very well, the basic fundamental of that gym. Davison is often derided, but his boxers go in with a plan, they set traps and often land that hail Mary shot. It's not luck, it's planned. We don't see that with Lee, he's trying to be a Kronk trainer, but he's doing it poorly.

If he can hurt usyk he can beat him. If he can foster usyk he can beat him

Parker was independently ranked #1 by TBRB. That was partly by default because the TBRB dropped Fury from the rankings when he announced his 'retirement'. With that in mind, the only person who could be ranked higher on merit was probably Kabayel. And? So they are very open to hype as well. Joe Joyce beat the living daylight out of Parker. Made him question life itself. Show how limited and poor these ranking are. 'Based on merit'. Yet anyone who actually watches boxing could see that Parker was just a guy in the right place at the right time. He's barely top 10. Even in his win v Zhang he looked like the loser. Rematch Bakole with a training camp. I dare him.

What has Parker done to be rated above average? I agree with plenty of what you say but he's been a top 10 heavyweight for a long time. That doesn't happen by fluke and it's not like he was carefully managed through match making... he's never been box office and only ever got what his results in the ring deserved. He's beaten Takam, Chisora, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang and Bakole. I know that's not exactly murderers row but it's a pretty solid resume for a contender. He's a good size and a good fighter. Not outstanding but a level ahead of the average fringe contender. Against Wardley he just got beaten by someone with a few exceptional attributes that he couldn't match. Not many hit like Wardley and despite Parker not being the heaviest handed in the division, not many would be able to take what he landed and fire back. I'd love to see him in with Huni to get a sense of where they're both at. I agree that Huni would win plenty of rounds but it's a fight that Parker could win by experience and toughness. Huni really doesn't seem to have either.

If he can hurt usyk he can beat him.

Wardley’s skills have improved for sure but there’s only so far they can go when he had no amateur background. Hes always going to have gaping holes in his game. That said, he’s talented, has crazy power, he has fast hands and quite good timing but what he has in abundance is heart, chin, stamina. You can’t teach that stuff. What he’s done up to this point is incredible. He ain’t going to win but in rooting for him against Usyk. Nash on here predicted that he'd beat Parker against the odds, but I agree that Usyk seems a step to far, but it's a Rocky story this, so we need to get behind Wardley, and if there is one attribute that can pull off a shock victory, it's power, and he has that. Nash out - His Majesty

He's one of very few fighters in years who get me genuinely excited on the edge of my seat. Sometimes I think I am the most miserable boxing fan going but he often makes me remember why I love the sport. When he was taking some licks in the 10th round and nodded down to the canvas signalling 'come on' walking forward menacingly with his hands down then proceeded to badly hurt Parker I literally jumped out of my chair. He's must watch TV. Whatever he lacks he makes up with in power and a huge pair of boII0cks! Nash's prediction of a Wardley win was tremendous stuff from Dr Boxing. Nash out - His Majesty

Howard Foster sees what mere mortals do not. There is a reason that he is known as 'the bulb', he knows when lights are about to be turned off. Parker was 1 second away from being in a heap on the floor. The bulb saved him. Nash out - His Majesty

He's the British version of Wilder but about 35% better, boxing wise. He's an absolute animal and to come from four white collar fights with NO amateur experience and in 20 fights landing a shot at arguably one of the greatest boxers who ever lived is right out of a fucking Rocky movie. It's an incredible story, and one that is heightened by the Great Nash picking him to beat the Greatv Parker yesterday. Nash out - His Majesty