So Canelo will not attempt to redeem his loss to Bud
I am not surprised to say the least
Rematching Bud would not be a wise decision , just like rematching Bivol
Canelo nuthuggers must be on suicide watch contemplating what will be of their hero
https://www.yardbarker.com/boxing/articles/latest_report_reveals_truth_about_canelo_alvarez_vs_terence_crawford_rematch_clause/s1_17676_42901392
Canelos done. He isnt the man that stood toe to toe with GGG. He isnt the man that survived v Bivol. He is now the man that was beaten up by a super welter, Bud Crawford.
Bud v Bivol at Super middle should now be run. Bivol said he can make the weight. Lefts see how Bud handles that before we bestow ATG on him..
Bud is retired remember?
bivol has a mandatory, a trilogy and a undefeated Benavidez all waiting on him and you want him to leave light heavyweight....smh
i dont see benny as a low skill fighter, if he was low skill canelo would not have ducked him for years, hes is also not a cruiser weight either, he was 189 pounds in the ring v gdoz and that fight was at 175 so he is not a massive massive guy, hes tall and slim actually, he carries a bit of excess belly weight from being very over weight as a kid, that is u believing the canelo spoof that he put out there and his fans have ran with since
canelo is not going to 175, being weight drained at 168 is false clearly, that would be making a mockery of all his fans over the years claiming he is actually 154 guy lol & now hes weight drained at 168, amazing really
canelo goes to 175 and fights the 3 B's, hes getting waxed probably each fight lol, maybe beter whos getting very old idk
Nelo still has a KO win over Benny's best win.
So there's that.
David Benavidez is a low skill fighter, why do you rate him so highly? It is clear that he was a force at 168 pounds, mainly because he was weight draining himself to be big man on fight night. I estimate that Benavidez really is a cruiserweight, at some point in his career if he continues to fight on he will compete in the cruiserweight division.
Note: Nobody has waxed Canelo Alvarez at 175 pounds, or really in his entire career accept Floyd Mayweather Junior 'I honestly believe that Alvarez was dead at the weight of 168 pounds. All the signs where there to see, his endurance was many times more worse than it has ever been before'.
Endurance may not be Canelo Alvarez best attributes as a fighter 'but it has never been a critical issue. It was just that in comparison to other elite level fighters, this was not the best area of his game where he would excel'.
Canelo Alvarez against Terrence Crawford looked to be completely static, and devoid and his usual explosive and decisive movements 'those are all signs that he was dead at the weight, and even still? He was able to be competitive with Terrence Crawford'.
To conclude: I reiterate once again, that I think it is very wise move for Canelo Alvarez not to rematch Terrence Crawford II at 168 pounds 'if he is to fight again, it is best to move up into the 175 divisions and pursue big fights in the divisions'.
In my opinion Canelo Alvarez can also take his time 'there is no need to jump straight back into the game at World level, he can build towards fights vs David Benavidez or one of the World Champions in the 175 pound Divisions' etc.
i dont see benny as a low skill fighter, if he was low skill canelo would not have ducked him for years, hes is also not a cruiser weight either, he was 189 pounds in the ring v gdoz and that fight was at 175 so he is not a massive massive guy, hes tall and slim actually, he carries a bit of excess belly weight from being very over weight as a kid, that is u believing the canelo spoof that he put out there and his fans have ran with since
canelo is not going to 175, being weight drained at 168 is false clearly, that would be making a mockery of all his fans over the years claiming he is actually 154 guy lol & now hes weight drained at 168, amazing really
canelo goes to 175 and fights the 3 B's, hes getting waxed probably each fight lol, maybe beter whos getting very old idk
dead at the weight?
canelo would get waxed at 175 & fighting benny at 175 would be far worse for canelo than at 168, at least he would force benny to make 168 and not easily make 175 where he is at now
just because benny may struggle with guys more at 175 than 168 does not mean that he would struggle with canelo more at 175 at all
not sure where u are getting the idea that benny is there for the taking at 175 either & it definitely wont be by canelo
David Benavidez is a low skill fighter, why do you rate him so highly? It is clear that he was a force at 168 pounds, mainly because he was weight draining himself to be big man on fight night. I estimate that Benavidez really is a cruiserweight, at some point in his career if he continues to fight on he will compete in the cruiserweight division.
Note: Nobody has waxed Canelo Alvarez at 175 pounds, or really in his entire career accept Floyd Mayweather Junior 'I honestly believe that Alvarez was dead at the weight of 168 pounds. All the signs where there to see, his endurance was many times more worse than it has ever been before'.
Endurance may not be Canelo Alvarez best attributes as a fighter 'but it has never been a critical issue. It was just that in comparison to other elite level fighters, this was not the best area of his game where he would excel'.
Canelo Alvarez against Terrence Crawford looked to be completely static, and devoid and his usual explosive and decisive movements 'those are all signs that he was dead at the weight, and even still? He was able to be competitive with Terrence Crawford'.
To conclude: I reiterate once again, that I think it is very wise move for Canelo Alvarez not to rematch Terrence Crawford II at 168 pounds 'if he is to fight again, it is best to move up into the 175 divisions and pursue big fights in the divisions'.
In my opinion Canelo Alvarez can also take his time 'there is no need to jump straight back into the game at World level, he can build towards fights vs David Benavidez or one of the World Champions in the 175 pound Divisions' etc.
I think this is a wise move, because I suspect? That Canelo Alvarez is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds.
I still think that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street, at 175 pounds? Benavidez does not appear to be as effective like he was at 168 pounds with his power. Which was one of his main attributes, along with his punch combinations and aggression. I think David Benavidez is there for the taking at 175 pounds, it is almost inevitable.
dead at the weight?
canelo would get waxed at 175 & fighting benny at 175 would be far worse for canelo than at 168, at least he would force benny to make 168 and not easily make 175 where he is at now
just because benny may struggle with guys more at 175 than 168 does not mean that he would struggle with canelo more at 175 at all
not sure where u are getting the idea that benny is there for the taking at 175 either & it definitely wont be by canelo
I think this is a wise move, because I suspect? That Canelo Alvarez is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds.
If Canelo Alvarez is to fight on in his career, I would like to see him fight up at 175 pounds again 'and potentially fight David Benavidez or one of the Champions there'.
I still think that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street, at 175 pounds? Benavidez does not appear to be as effective like he was at 168 pounds with his power. Which was one of his main attributes, along with his punch combinations and aggression. I think David Benavidez is there for the taking at 175 pounds, it is almost inevitable.
Note: Canelo Alvarez has had a great career 'and he has accomplished almost all there is in the professional rankings of the sport. He was an Undisputed Champion, and has fought many great fighters throughout his career win or lose'.
I think his place as one of this boxing era's greatest fighters 'is already solidified, much like Oleksandr Uysk, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. They have all already fought and won, their biggest fights and achieved their greatest feats. Anything more which they achieve at this stage of their career, is just a bonus to add onto their resume'.
To conclude: So overall, I think it is a wise move that Canelo Alvarez does not immediately pursue a rematch with Terrence Crawford at 168 pounds 'because I suspect that one of the main influential factors as to why? Canelo Alvarez loss the fight, was because he is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds, and need to move back up into the 175 pounds divisions if he so desires to fight on in his career' etc.
Canelo is too small for 175. He’s damn near too small for 168. Add that to him being pretty much an old fighter now, it’s not a wise move. I suggested in another thread that he fight Jermall Charlo at 168.
Once you start talking the way you are you make it very easy to prove my point
Not gonna go through the twelve step program with you
:dunno: :pat:and politely say:wave:
Obviously
Got it , so when it’s convenient for you
You do know that threads like this come back to bite you in the ass , right ?
Cause I’m pretty sure that if I go search , a boxing aficionado like yourself , has sh/t on compubox at least once either for someone using that garbage to claim a victory or to disclaim one but this garbage site doesn’t pay me so no worries
Thanks for answering my question, doe
I think this is a wise move, because I suspect? That Canelo Alvarez is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds.
If Canelo Alvarez is to fight on in his career, I would like to see him fight up at 175 pounds again 'and potentially fight David Benavidez or one of the Champions there'.
I still think that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street, at 175 pounds? Benavidez does not appear to be as effective like he was at 168 pounds with his power. Which was one of his main attributes, along with his punch combinations and aggression. I think David Benavidez is there for the taking at 175 pounds, it is almost inevitable.
Note: Canelo Alvarez has had a great career 'and he has accomplished almost all there is in the professional rankings of the sport. He was an Undisputed Champion, and has fought many great fighters throughout his career win or lose'.
I think his place as one of this boxing era's greatest fighters 'is already solidified, much like Oleksandr Uysk, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. They have all already fought and won, their biggest fights and achieved their greatest feats. Anything more which they achieve at this stage of their career, is just a bonus to add onto their resume'.
To conclude: So overall, I think it is a wise move that Canelo Alvarez does not immediately pursue a rematch with Terrence Crawford at 168 pounds 'because I suspect that one of the main influential factors as to why? Canelo Alvarez loss the fight, was because he is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds, and need to move back up into the 175 pounds divisions if he so desires to fight on in his career' etc.
Same can be said that you are infatuated with Nelo
*(Twelve would be a very high guesstimate, TBH)
No one knows Benny
No one is mentioning him as some people's champ
No one is willing to anoint Nelo p4p king if he had Benny's resume
And how am I moving goalposts ?
What a tired cliche
+5% has made many a Nelo hater weep over the Lara outcome
That 117-111 score. doe
Would it have been better if it were 115-113 Nelo ?
It's not as if he was the only judge to score it for Nelo.
Unlike CJ Ross, scoring Nelo vs May a draw :lol1:
Once you start talking the way you are you make it very easy to prove my point
Not gonna go through the twelve step program with you
:dunno: :pat:and politely say:wave:
What metric do you use ?
Eye test ?
Emotional biases ?
I will agree that compubox is flawed
not as flawed as....HUMAN JUDGES, doe :lol1:
Got it , so when it’s convenient for you
You do know that threads like this come back to bite you in the ass , right ?
Cause I’m pretty sure that if I go search , a boxing aficionado like yourself , has sh/t on compubox at least once either for someone using that garbage to claim a victory or to disclaim one but this garbage site doesn’t pay me so no worries
Canelo Fans before Bivol's fight:
1st Bivol, then Beterbiev and then Usyk! Easy work!
After reality hits them and now the number 1 excuse:
Canelo is too small for 175.
GTFOH (bold)
I used to say the only way Nelo could get the respect he deserves was to beat Usyk.
If nothing else, Nelo fought in more div than Usyk.
Has a deeper resume than Usyk
And let's put that last bit to the test, shall we :lol1: ?!?!?
Biv 6'
Beter 6'
Berlanga 6'1"
Plant 6'1"
Benny 6'2"
Usyk 6'3"
Some said GGG was a small MW at 5'10"
Even Bud was taller at 5'8"
Nelo 5'7"
So, um, yeah.
Helpful hint, you should get rid of that sig :lol1: !!!!!
And yes you infatuated with Benny
But how does it go , before hand all Canelo fans used to say that Benny had a small fan base , he wasn’t known besides his *twelve fans
Now it’s the opposite
Talk about moving goalposts
And brother any which way you wanna see it , Canelo lost that fight
Maybe not a robbery per se but call it for what it is
Same can be said that you are infatuated with Nelo
*(Twelve would be a very high guesstimate, TBH)
No one knows Benny
No one is mentioning him as some people's champ
No one is willing to anoint Nelo p4p king if he had Benny's resume
And how am I moving goalposts ?
What a tired cliche
+5% has made many a Nelo hater weep over the Lara outcome
That 117-111 score. doe
Would it have been better if it were 115-113 Nelo ?
It's not as if he was the only judge to score it for Nelo.
Unlike CJ Ross, scoring Nelo vs May a draw :lol1:
So now , when it’s comforting for you , we’ll take compubox stats
Ok got it
What metric do you use ?
Eye test ?
Emotional biases ?
I will agree that compubox is flawed
not as flawed as....HUMAN JUDGES, doe :lol1:
Does Boos Nelo really has a global fanbase? Or is it just mostly concentrated in one spot of this earth?
this guy, ,you think they just pay canelo hundreds of millions for his little local fanbase. this is worldwide, !
and you spelled BOSS wrong, again!!
:bottle:
Regarding the Lara fight....
Canelo Alvarez
Power Punches Landed: 88 (out of 232 attempted)
Power Punches to Body: 73
Total Punches Thrown: 415
Total Punches Landed: 97
Connect Rate: 23%
Erislandy Lara
Total Punches Thrown: 386
Total Punches Landed: 107
Connect Rate: 28%
Jabs Landed: 9 (out of 183 attempted)
"In their 2014 bout, Lara landed more total punches (107 to 97), but Canelo landed more power punches, particularly to the body. Lara landed 107 of 386 punches (28%), while Canelo landed 97 of 415 (23%). Lara landed more jabs (55 to 9), while Canelo landed 88 of 232 power punches compared to Lara's 52 of 140"
If it were any other guy who fought Lara, it would have been deemed close but clear.
Since it's Nelo, "WORST ROBBERY IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT :crying:................"
And yes you infatuated with Benny
But how does it go , before hand all Canelo fans used to say that Benny had a small fan base , he wasn’t known besides his twelve fans
Now it’s the opposite
Talk about moving goalposts
And brother any which way you wanna see it , Canelo lost that fight
Maybe not a robbery per se but call it for what it is
Regarding the Lara fight....
Canelo Alvarez
Power Punches Landed: 88 (out of 232 attempted)
Power Punches to Body: 73
Total Punches Thrown: 415
Total Punches Landed: 97
Connect Rate: 23%
Erislandy Lara
Total Punches Thrown: 386
Total Punches Landed: 107
Connect Rate: 28%
Jabs Landed: 9 (out of 183 attempted)
"In their 2014 bout, Lara landed more total punches (107 to 97), but Canelo landed more power punches, particularly to the body. Lara landed 107 of 386 punches (28%), while Canelo landed 97 of 415 (23%). Lara landed more jabs (55 to 9), while Canelo landed 88 of 232 power punches compared to Lara's 52 of 140"
If it were any other guy who fought Lara, it would have been deemed close but clear.
Since it's Nelo, "WORST ROBBERY IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT :crying:................"
So now , when it’s comforting for you , we’ll take compubox stats
Ok got it