Think about it...that's the ONLY thing separating Crawford as the current p4p #1 right now. People might argue that it's a weak division but is it really THAT much weaker than Thomas Dulorme, Viktor Postol, Ricky Burns etc. who Crawford defeated to become undisputed Light Welterweight champion?
Postol was a good win but Matthysse was at the end of his career and had a few losses when they fought. Bridgerweight definitely is the weakest division in boxing right now but there have been a few 'decent' champions like Okolie and that Dagestani with an elite amateur background. Also, who knows, the weight class might explode in the near future and become more glamourous.
I have Crawford as the current p4p #1 but Usyk's defeat of a PRIME Fury (twice) was more impressive (especially since Canelo is at the end of his career too) whereas beating prime Gassiev & Breidis combined in on PAR par with beating Spence (post life-changing car crash).
Lol....
he needs to drop down to light heavy
That would take enormous effort to come down to light heavyweight and most likely many problems
The last time he was a light heavyweight was in 2008
No such thing as bridgerweight division since there is not cut off between cruiser and heavy, there has been like 2-3 fights for this bs title only sanctioned by the WBC no other orgs.at least they could have named it the buffguyweight division
:rolleyes:David is a task for Bivol!
Naoya close was Nonito
TBud and Usyk are better defensively than Naoya who gets caught flush and downed twice once by a random
Inoue only went down as a maybe a bit too confident and wants to put on a show. Other than that he fights more regular and dominates more. I mean inoue was supposed to be ducking his last opponent but MJ ended up looking not much more than sparring partner?
I think Crawford is the current p4p #1 because of his recent history-making achievement but I still consider the other two just as good. Usyk has beaten some real KILLERS at both Cruiserweight & Heavyweight (often twice to leave NO doubt) whereas nobody is DOMINATING the opposition like Inoue as he climbs the ranks. For example, Usyk had close fights with Chisora & Fury as did Crawford with Madrimov & Canelo but Inoue is literally either knocking out or winning shutouts against champions. It's almost as though he's playing the game on easy mode whereas the other two are playing it on the hardest setting.
It's literally a COIN toss as to who is the better fighter in my opinion.Beat benavidez:rolleyes:David is a task for Bivol!
Naoya close was Nonito
TBud and Usyk are better defensively than Naoya who gets caught flush and downed twice once by a random
TBud best of his gen
Naoya
Usyk
I think Crawford is the current p4p #1 because of his recent history-making achievement but I still consider the other two just as good. Usyk has beaten some real KILLERS at both Cruiserweight & Heavyweight (often twice to leave NO doubt) whereas nobody is DOMINATING the opposition like Inoue as he climbs the ranks. For example, Usyk had close fights with Chisora & Fury as did Crawford with Madrimov & Canelo but Inoue is literally either knocking out or winning shutouts against champions. It's almost as though he's playing the game on easy mode whereas the other two are playing it on the hardest setting.
It's literally a COIN toss as to who is the better fighter in my opinion.
Buds 3 time undisputed means nothing he beat nobody until nelo, spence. Nobody knows how he became u ndisputed, if it was how he became undisputed at 168 nobody cares.
Beat benavidez
I can agree to disagree on Fury's prime and I was also very impressed with Usyk's win over him. IMO Canelo, even with losses, is a better/greater fighter than Fury before and now. The best single win between the two of them is Crawford's. I can see how two wins over a top fighter is better than one. Skill for skill, I don't have anybody currently above Crawford, which is why I have him PFP #1 after a great win. For the record, I have personally had them flip flopping for the last 2 years with Inoue even jumping in briefly after the Fulton domination. He was unlucky that the Spence fight happened later that week.of the top guys only TBud and Top Soviet Bivol have wins over all times
matter of fact Bivol has 2
Beating Canelo was indeed a GREAT win but not as impressive as beating Fury (twice) because Tyson was undefeated at the time whereas Canelo had already lost a couple and had almost DOUBLE the number of pro fights. Therefore, Fury was in his prime and the fresher fighter.
As for the weight classes, Crawford started his career as the much smaller man so was able to conquer MORE weight divisions (like Pacquiao) whereas Usyk is the naturally bigger guy so could only really move up to Heavyweight.
Still, I take nothing away from Crawford as becoming 3x undisputed is a history-making achievement. However, this ISN'T the only thing that differentiates him from the other elite fighter's. The fact that he's the only genuine switch hitter who's equally good in both stances and actually beat both Spence & Canelo fighting southpaw (when he normally fights orthodox) is mind blowing.
TBud best of his gen
Naoya
Usyk
Beating Canelo was indeed a GREAT win but not as impressive as beating Fury (twice) because Tyson was undefeated at the time whereas Canelo had already lost a couple and had almost DOUBLE the number of pro fights. Therefore, Fury was in his prime and the fresher fighter.
As for the weight classes, Crawford started his career as the much smaller man so was able to conquer MORE weight divisions (like Pacquiao) whereas Usyk is the naturally bigger guy so could only really move up to Heavyweight.
Still, I take nothing away from Crawford as becoming 3x undisputed is a history-making achievement. However, this ISN'T the only thing that differentiates him from the other elite fighter's. The fact that he's the only genuine switch hitter who's equally good in both stances and actually beat both Spence & Canelo fighting southpaw (when he normally fights orthodox) is mind blowing.
I can agree to disagree on Fury's prime and I was also very impressed with Usyk's win over him. IMO Canelo, even with losses, is a better/greater fighter than Fury before and now. The best single win between the two of them is Crawford's. I can see how two wins over a top fighter is better than one. Skill for skill, I don't have anybody currently above Crawford, which is why I have him PFP #1 after a great win. For the record, I have personally had them flip flopping for the last 2 years with Inoue even jumping in briefly after the Fulton domination. He was unlucky that the Spence fight happened later that week.
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Despite being levels behind him old Chisora was a handful for Usyk
One could argue Usyk is the most natural talent the boxing world has ever had
Usyk started boxing at 15 which is kind of late
Floyd Top Soviet Bivol Buff Guy Artur manny damn near every all time started in single digit ages
Floyd a strange guy bouncing between being ultra polite to an absolute d1kc lol
That was his first fight at Heavyweight and I genuinely believe he underperformed to lure Joshua into fighting him and taking his belts.
Didn't realise he started boxing so late...that makes all of his accomplishments even MORE impressive.
As for Mayweather, I wish he'd showcase his intelligent side more instead of being an asshole but he prefers talking shit just to stay in the limelight :rofl:
Why discredit a fighter to prop another? They both have very impressive wins. You say Canelo is towards the end, but believe that 36yr old Fury who has been boxing since 2008 was prime. Neither was prime, but still very great wins. Crawford also has fought and been champion in 5 divisions, so I don't believe it is just 3x undisputed separating.
Beating Canelo was indeed a GREAT win but not as impressive as beating Fury (twice) because Tyson was undefeated at the time whereas Canelo had already lost a couple and had almost DOUBLE the number of pro fights. Therefore, Fury was in his prime and the fresher fighter.
As for the weight classes, Crawford started his career as the much smaller man so was able to conquer MORE weight divisions (like Pacquiao) whereas Usyk is the naturally bigger guy so could only really move up to Heavyweight.
Still, I take nothing away from Crawford as becoming 3x undisputed is a history-making achievement. However, this ISN'T the only thing that differentiates him from the other elite fighter's. The fact that he's the only genuine switch hitter who's equally good in both stances and actually beat both Spence & Canelo fighting southpaw (when he normally fights orthodox) is mind blowing.
Postol was a good win but Matthysse was at the end of his career and had a few losses when they fought. Bridgerweight definitely is the weakest division in boxing right now but there have been a few 'decent' champions like Okolie and that Dagestani with an elite amateur background. Also, who knows, the weight class might explode in the near future and become more glamourous.
I have Crawford as the current p4p #1 but Usyk's defeat of a PRIME Fury (twice) was more impressive (especially since Canelo is at the end of his career too) whereas beating prime Gassiev & Breidis combined in on PAR par with beating Spence (post life-changing car crash).
Why discredit a fighter to prop another? They both have very impressive wins. You say Canelo is towards the end, but believe that 36yr old Fury who has been boxing since 2008 was prime. Neither was prime, but still very great wins. Crawford also has fought and been champion in 5 divisions, so I don't believe it is just 3x undisputed separating.
Usyk and Floyd are equivalent talents...in fact, I'd probably lean more towards the Ukrainian as he's taken more risks and beaten opposition in their PRIME. As for Itauma, he certainly looks the part but hasn't fought anybody yet. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk makes him look like a deer in the headlights either (like Floyd-Canelo).Lil Buff Guy Miniature Malteser Magician Mayweather - thoughts? :rofl:superior infighter
Despite being levels behind him old Chisora was a handful for Usyk
One could argue Usyk is the most natural talent the boxing world has ever had
Usyk started boxing at 15 which is kind of late
Floyd Top Soviet Bivol Buff Guy Artur manny damn near every all time started in single digit ages
Floyd a strange guy bouncing between being ultra polite to an absolute d1kc lol
Can anyone even name one fighter thats fighting at bridgerweight?
There's a skilled Dagestani who's a former 2x World & European Gold medallist (Musl1m Gadzhimagomedov) who holds the WBA title. Okolie was champ but recently left to go up to Heavyweight.
Moses eye test impresses me more so than Saul did
and Floyd is levels better than the ukrainian cossack
if Moses wins, I will not be the only person calling him BIBLICAL Moses:cool:
Usyk and Floyd are equivalent talents...in fact, I'd probably lean more towards the Ukrainian as he's taken more risks and beaten opposition in their PRIME. As for Itauma, he certainly looks the part but hasn't fought anybody yet. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk makes him look like a deer in the headlights either (like Floyd-Canelo).
100% although people will moan he was too green just like when Mayweather played with Canelo like food.
Moses eye test impresses me more so than Saul did
and Floyd is levels better than the ukrainian cossack
if Moses wins, I will not be the only person calling him BIBLICAL Moses:cool: