Just landed back from Vegas. Hence why I haven’t posted in about a week. Honestly what an event, kudos to TKO for putting this together. Atmosphere was great, the Mexicans came out, Omaha too. Best event I’ve been too in well over a decade.
For me this could be the greatest single victory in boxing history. Crawford was the smaller man, the older man, he was moving up essentially 3 divisions to a weight class far above his optimum weight, he’d been inactive for over a year and he was coming up against a modern great, a guy universally ranked top 10 P4P who’d dominated 168 for 5 years. There was no catchweight, no clauses, he was the B-side fighter but none of that mattered because Bud is just that damn good. I think what makes it so impressive is the way he won, he outboxed and he outfought Canelo, it was a truly magnificent and dominant performance.
For me personally, he’s the best I’ve seen live, the performance against Spence is probably the best performance I’ve seen live too. I’ve been privileged to watch guys like Floyd, Usyk, Inoue, Loma etc but Bud is easily the most impressive to watch live, the tools he has both offensively and defensively are incredible. I think he’s the best Welterweight since Ray Leonard- which is a 50/50 fight for me. I’d confidently say he beats both Floyd and Pac at 147. I just think he has far more weapons than both those guys at Welterweight.
It’s obviously subjective where he ranks all time, some will have him higher, some will have him lower, but what isn’t debatable is Bud Crawford is now certainly in that conversation.
Where is your proof. You actually sat and counted each clinch? LOL
Yeah I rewatched it and counted the number of clinches because it baffled me that in a fight where there was barely any holding that a narrative was being pushed that there was
The answer is 21, less than 2 per round on average.
He clinched 21 times in the entire fight which is less than 2 times per round on average.
So not "often".
Where is your proof. You actually sat and counted each clinch? LOL
No, it's clear you are in denial pac was way more past prime than floyd when they fought. And in denial that having longevity in the sport of boxing contributes to the understanding it's because a fighter is greater.
Pac's FIRST 40 FIGHTS, doe :lol1: !!!!
A career worth of cherries, and still managed to get KTFO 2x
Erik and Marco...past prime
DONE LH, Shotarito, Broner, Baby Shotarito, Mosley
Cotto Lite, Alcherry, Timmeh 3x, JMM 4x ( :lol1: ), HORN......
Pac's resume is filled with nonsense
You are unhinged and in denial.
No, it's clear you are in denial pac was way more past prime than floyd when they fought. And in denial that having longevity in the sport of boxing contributes to the understanding it's because a fighter is greater.
Cotto said floyd ducked pac for 6 years as floyd knew pac would ko him.
Floyd said pac was his toughest opponent, so there's a discrepancy somewhere, from what floyd fans like you think and what actually transpired?
Yes judges gave floyd a comfortable decision, so if you hadn't seen fight with own eyes you.could envisage it having been easy. But with a different set of judges, in neutral country other than vegas, the result could ve been different story
You are unhinged and in denial.
No, he easily won. Pac couldn't hit him in a phone booth.
If they had fought earlier, Floyd would have won even more easily than he did. He is a nightmare style match up for Manny.
Cotto said floyd ducked pac for 6 years as floyd knew pac would ko him.
Floyd said pac was his toughest opponent, so there's a discrepancy somewhere, from what floyd fans like you think and what actually transpired?
Yes judges gave floyd a comfortable decision, so if you hadn't seen fight with own eyes you.could envisage it having been easy. But with a different set of judges, in neutral country other than vegas, the result could ve been different story
No, he easily won. Pac couldn't hit him in a phone booth.
If they had fought earlier, Floyd would have won even more easily than he did. He is a nightmare style match up for Manny. a lunger who cant cut off the ring vs a master boxer known for his back foot counters
This isn’t rocket science:cool:
Floyd wasnt impressive, floyd fans admitted it themselves. Floyd whooped nobody. From Floyd's maidana, pac, connor performances, you concluded floyd looked past prime, which is you acknowledging he bare!y won, if he won at all, no matter what judges said
No, he easily won. Pac couldn't hit him in a phone booth.
If they had fought earlier, Floyd would have won even more easily than he did. He is a nightmare style match up for Manny.
Floyd whooped Pac easily. Get a grip on reality.
Floyd wasnt impressive, floyd fans admitted it themselves. Floyd whooped nobody. From Floyd's maidana, pac, connor performances, you concluded floyd looked past prime, which is you acknowledging he bare!y won, if he won at all, no matter what judges said
2 years older? Your think they shouldve made floyd underdog as he was 2 years older? How much.older was floyd than nelo? How much older was Pac then thurman?
Floyd looked bad against maidana so mustve past prime is all I hear from floyd fans?
Pac is still fighting because he's greater than floyd and Floyd's been exposed, whenever floyd fought anyone good there's some kind of vontroversy
Floyd whooped Pac easily. Get a grip on reality.
No, it's because Floyd is 2 years older, retired much sooner, and Manny is literally still fighting all these years later and won two more world titles after Floyd beat him.
2 years older? Your think they shouldve made floyd underdog as he was 2 years older? How much.older was floyd than nelo? How much older was Pac then thurman?
Floyd looked bad against maidana so mustve past prime is all I hear from floyd fans?
Pac is still fighting because he's greater than floyd and Floyd's been exposed, whenever floyd fought anyone good there's some kind of vontroversy
Bud being an ATG because he did ONE THING worth bragging about (worth name dropping :lol1: !)..................
If that's the case, he's the Joe Namath of boxing
Well I constantly hear floyd fans say Floyd was more past prime than pac. Must be because floyd performed bad.
No, it's because Floyd is 2 years older, retired much sooner, and Manny is literally still fighting all these years later and won two more world titles after Floyd beat him.
Well I constantly hear floyd fans say Floyd was more past prime than pac. Must be because floyd performed bad. oh yep Floyd on what wasn't his best night still 10-2'd manny
Floyd on a better night shuts out manny entirely Floyd 12-0 manny
Pacquiao easily beat Juan in the third fight
:haha:so easy that OVER HALF of the boxing world thought manny was gifted in a robbery:lol1:
Meanwhile TBud has ZERO controversial wins. Each and every one was done convincingly
I really cant educate your race riding brain anymore I am not black but okay:rofl::slap:
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Because Freddy Roach and Bob Arum publicly acknowledged that Pacquiao would get his ass kicked and neither wanted the fight.
That has nothing to do with TBud demanding the fight to be at 140. If Freddie and Arum say Pacquiao would get his ass kicked, then why would TBud demand the fight at 140 and not 147? Another salty TBud fan making no sense.
Roach respects Crawford’s ability, but doesn’t think he is ready to topple Pacquiao, particularly at 147 pounds, the weight at which Roach wants them to fight. He suspects Arum wants to use an aging Pacquiao’s star power to help build Crawford into a bigger attraction.
“ wants that fight,” Roach said. “The thing is, I think he’s trying to make Crawford into a bigger star. If he beat Manny, it would help. But I think Manny can beat him. The thing is, I mean, he is a good fighter. I do respect him. He’s a very good boxer. He can move. He can run like hell if he wants to. But can he beat Manny? I don’t think so.”
oh yep manny didn’t know how to fight dirty
worsened by end of 4 yet manny took round 6 and made round 7 close
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IronDanHamza get a load of this according to Hugh the closest ever to pure boxer perfection had a habit of looking bad:rofl:
I cannot make this sht up
Then every other fighter had a habit of looking crap
Well I constantly hear floyd fans say Floyd was more past prime than pac. Must be because floyd performed bad.
Bud has fought spence whos prime was left on the dashboard of his car and Canelo who has been on a major decline and went life and death with John Ryder...not to mention he was schooled by Lara years ago..beaten by GGG twice in most eyes and previously dominated in a much less competitive fashion by Mayweather and Bivol than Bud did..
This is choreographed greatness and the afro americans and casuals are lapping it up putting him above past way more deserving fighters