Placing TBud in an All Time Greatness Neighborhood

5 weight champion and undisputed in 3 of them is very impressive. Dont know where he ranks but he’s an high level ATG that’s for sure.top 25 easily

5 weight champion and undisputed in 3 of them is very impressive. Dont know where he ranks but he’s an high level ATG that’s for sure.

Stick Bud behind Julio He's beaten a multiple car crash spence and a gift decision king Canelo whos been on the slide for years now Granted Buds older but he hasnt been in wars for this simple fact and is obviously on the best gear Snac can offer which seems to be the beat in the buisness right now a-side meth is one helluva drug:cool:

I think somewhere between top 13 to 20 all time would be it. Now he likely takes on 160 Sugar Robinson Harry Henry Sam Ezzard Willie Muhammad Roberto Joe Sugar Leonard Floyd Benny Pernell manny Jimmy Archie Carlos Marvin Barney Tony Julio Cesar Stick Bud behind Julio He's beaten a multiple car crash spence and a gift decision king Canelo whos been on the slide for years now Granted Buds older but he hasnt been in wars for this simple fact and is obviously on the best gear Snac can offer which seems to be the beat in the buisness right now

This is true , but screw that the top 10 guys on your list could be #1 (GOAT) on someone else's list .why like Muhammad so much

by definition there can only be ONE goat my top 5 all time list are the untouchables modern boxing is structured in a way that won't ever allow any contemporary fighter to breach the top 5 all time 1 or 2 fights per year isn't cutting it This is true , but screw that the top 10 guys on your list could be #1 (GOAT) on someone else's list .

He is already an ATG , discussion should be more about GOAT status which is more of a representation of your list....... by definition there can only be ONE goat my top 5 all time list are the untouchables modern boxing is structured in a way that won't ever allow any contemporary fighter to breach the top 5 all time 1 or 2 fights per year isn't cutting it

He is already an ATG , discussion should be more about GOAT status which is more of a representation of your list.......

Crawford is my favorite fighter, but it's hard for him to arguably take the top spot, with that being said I could see Tbud winning against Floyd, Leonard and Duran. So I would place him top 8-7that number is high Sugar Leonard and Floyd each ran through multiple all time opponents. TBud has one so far

Crawford is my favorite fighter, but it's hard for him to arguably take the top spot, with that being said I could see Tbud winning against Floyd, Leonard and Duran. So I would place him top 8-7

Only male in 4 belt era to have 3 unified weights. Went up 2 weight classes and clearly defeated the cash cow and top 7 p4p boxer by a wide margin. That deserves respect.

Slot him at 14 and kick that tiny, jungle-born Asian loser off the list.why so negatively fixated on manny Maybe 13 if he finishes strong at 160 and retires undefeated

I think somewhere between top 13 to 20 all time would be it. Now he likely takes on 160 Sugar Robinson Harry Henry Sam Ezzard Willie Muhammad Roberto Joe Sugar Leonard Floyd Benny Pernell manny Jimmy Archie Carlos Marvin Barney Tony Julio Cesar Slot him at 14 and kick that tiny, jungle-born Asian loser off the list.