Boxing needs to be centralized like ufc

UFC being around since 93 doesn’t suddenly erase the fact that boxing has been filling stadiums and cashing paydays way before Dana White even learned how to wear a suit. And? whats your point? how does this relate to what he said? He mentioned that the UFC has been around since 1993 in response to the criticism that its a flash in the pan. His response killed that argument dead in its tracks. You're also overlooking that a sport that "only" came around in the 90s managed to put itself on more or less even footing with boxing by the end of the 00s. You keep throwing "facts" around like they’re holy scripture. Well i'm sorry that I keep throwing around facts, I know its inconvenient for you. Boxing "gimmicks" still pull more eyeballs and cash than UFC’s biggest nights Why are you putting gimmicks in quotations? i'm talking about fights that literally dont involve actual active career boxers but instead Youtubers, MMA fighters and retired boxers in their 40s and 50s. That means that the drawing power/star power of those fights has nothing to do with interest in the actual current boxing scene. I already told you theres something like 4-5 UFC fights over the last 10 years that did more PPV buys than any boxing match between actual real active boxers did. The biggest boxing PPV over that time frame was Canelo/GGG 1 which did 1.3 million buys, the biggest UFC PPV was Conor/Khabib a year later which did as many buys as Canelo/GGG 1+2 combined. UFC fighters are still underpaid The argument was never about fighter pay, I literally never once mentioned it. It was mainly about whether the UFC is international or not. You're all over the place. But since we keep coming back to this why are you so fixated on fighter pay? how does it effect you as the consumer? do you feel you're getting more big fights, more big cards and a generally better experience with boxing than the UFC because fatty Fury gets $50 million to arguably lose a boxing match to an 0-0 in boxing MMA fighter while the UFC guys who consistently defend against top challengers are making less than a tenth of that? Would you say the close to $50m Ngannou has been paid since he left the UFC has improved the entertainment value hes been giving? and the fact you’re foaming at the mouth to defend it this hard just proves you’ve hitched your self-worth to a cage fight brand If anyone is foaming at the mouth here its you, i'm just directly addressing your arguments and responding to them with factual information. And you're responding with "hur hur you wanna suck Danas dick" and "u mad" STILL waiting on you to name these "flavour of the month brawlers" you claimed the UFC keeps hyping up.

No, i'm spewing revenue numbers and tv deals because they are pertinent to disproving your claim that the UFC is minor league, like how I spewed factual information regarding where cards are being held and who the champions are in response to your claim that the UFC is "American centered" and not global. What you're doing here is emotionally responding and trying to attack the person instead of the facts because the facts are against you. Again, you've goalpost shifted to a completely unrelated topic to the one you started off with. You claimed the UFC was American-centered, not global and minor league. Fighter pay has nothing to do with that. You do realise theres been like 4-5 UFC PPVs in the last 10 years that outdrew any non gimmick boxing PPV thats happened over the same time frame right? No, revenue figures, nationalities of champions, locations of cards etc etc are quite literally just stone cold facts. "da UFC is like McDonalds and boxing is like a fancy restaurant" on the other hand, is not. Lol Fury boxed an MMA fighter making his debut last year while he was the literal HW champ of the world and no1 ranked. A Youtuber vs a near 60 year old Mike Tyson was the most watched boxing match of 2024, that same Youtuber vs a guy who is supposed to be a current p4p top 10 level talent may well end up being the most watched boxing match of 2025. The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are a retired boxer vs an MMA fighter and an exhibition between two guys in their 50s. 48 year old Carl Froch is probably about to come out of retirement to box an MMA fighter in what will be one of the biggest boxing matches of the year if it happens too. But yeah the UFC Is the WWE. Are you seriously suggesting the UFC isnt making evenly matched fights between top ranked fighters on a much more consistent basis than boxing? It didnt hit a nerve at all, i'm obviously a fan of both sports and think theres plenty of qualities boxing has over MMA, I even said on the previous page I feel boxing is overall in a slightly better place right now. I'm just enjoying making you try to explain your way out of your mindless takes to see what ******ed direction you'll take things next to keep up your narrative in the face of all the factual information you've been given. So go on, humour me, tell me who these "flavour of the month brawlers" are that the UFC apparently keeps hyping up? You like Dana White’s unpaid intern. You keep throwing "facts" around like they’re holy scripture. UFC fighters are still underpaid, still begging for crossover fights with boxers because the money isn’t there, and you’re out here flexing like that’s a win. Boxing "gimmicks" still pull more eyeballs and cash than UFC’s biggest nights, and the fact you’re foaming at the mouth to defend it this hard just proves you’ve hitched your self-worth to a cage fight brand. Chill you sound like you want a W-2 from Dana more than an actual argument.

ufc has been around since 1993 and his more profitable and bigger than ever. Boxing is not thriving lmao. UFC being around since 93 doesn’t suddenly erase the fact that boxing has been filling stadiums and cashing paydays way before Dana White even learned how to wear a suit. You said "Boxing is not thriving" meanwhile, boxers are pulling checks UFC fighters could only dream of. Stay mad and keep watching your favorite fighters beg for a fair cut while boxers retire rich

its more profitable than ever but definitely not bigger than ever in the sense of generating buzz and mainstream attention and having big stars. I know it sounds contradictory that you can have one without the other, but the reason they are making so much money is the constant price raising for ppvs and ticket sales, the massive flat fees they get from networks, having their own paid streaming service, merchandising, doing 40+ events per year, video games, sponsorship deals including literally for the fighters shorts etc etc. Over time they've locked in all these streams of revenue and built up the brand of the ufc itself to a point where even when there arent any conor level stars around they are still doing big business. Its a very similar model to something like the wwe. Even with the saudis heavily involved in boxing its not like we are seeing big fights/cards every weeks, its a few a year. Whereas with the ufc they are doing their big numbered cards monthly and even then theres often semi-big fights in between those. If the payroll was comparable to boxing with that schedule even turki would be like "**** this" before long. Right now the ufc could put together 3 stacked 12 fight ppv cards with the purse of the canelo/crawford fight, not the card, literally just the fight. Its a crazy disparity. this is true. But you can still centralize boxing and take the promoters out and have it under one network and the fights will get made faster than waiting 5 years for a big fight.

the ufc is a league. There are many leagues in the sport of mma. Boxing is a sport. all the top mma fighters are in the ufc for the most part

The UFC is a league. There are many leagues in the sport of MMA. Boxing is a sport.

ufc has been around since 1993 and his more profitable and bigger than ever. Boxing is not thriving lmao. Its more profitable than ever but definitely not bigger than ever in the sense of generating buzz and mainstream attention and having big stars. I know it sounds contradictory that you can have one without the other, but the reason they are making so much money is the constant price raising for PPVs and ticket sales, the massive flat fees they get from networks, having their own paid streaming service, merchandising, doing 40+ events per year, video games, sponsorship deals including literally for the fighters shorts etc etc. Over time they've locked in all these streams of revenue and built up the brand of the UFC itself to a point where even when there arent any Conor level stars around they are still doing big business. Its a very similar model to something like the WWE. money is no longer an issue with the saudis and turki funding the big fights. They're literally doing this now. They have a printing press. Even with the Saudis heavily involved in boxing its not like we are seeing big fights/cards every weeks, its a few a year. Whereas with the UFC they are doing their big numbered cards monthly and even then theres often semi-big fights in between those. If the payroll was comparable to boxing with that schedule even Turki would be like "fuck this" before long. Right now the UFC could put together 3 stacked 12 fight PPV cards with the purse of the Canelo/Crawford fight, not the card, literally just the fight. Its a crazy disparity.

theres one american ufc champ right now out of 11 champions. The last two ufc cards took place in france and china, 5 of their next 10 cards are happening outside of america. You're talking like its 2005 not 2025. The ufc has existed for 32 years now too, thats not exactly short term entertainment is it? I do agree though that a ufc model wouldnt work with boxing for various reasons. The vastly higher fight purses in boxing being one major factor. money is no longer an issue with the saudis and turki funding the big fights. They're literally doing this now. They have a printing press.

the ufc only looks shiny cause it’s centralized in the us but let’s be real, the us ain’t the entire world. Boxing is global. We’ve got champions from mexico, uk, japan, eastern europe, africa..literally everywhere. You think one company in vegas can run the whole sport? That’s laughable. Sure, the ufc model gives you hype for a few years, but it’s a bubble short-term entertainment, not long-term sustainability. Boxing’s decentralized system may be messy, but that’s exactly why it’s alive and thriving worldwide while ufc stays a us-centric circus. ufc has been around since 1993 and his more profitable and bigger than ever. Boxing is not thriving lmao.

Relax tiger, you just wrote a whole dissertation defending Dana White like he’s your sugar daddy. You keep spewing revenue numbers and TV deals like you’re on the UFC payroll, No, i'm spewing revenue numbers and tv deals because they are pertinent to disproving your claim that the UFC is minor league, like how I spewed factual information regarding where cards are being held and who the champions are in response to your claim that the UFC is "American centered" and not global. What you're doing here is emotionally responding and trying to attack the person instead of the facts because the facts are against you. but guess what? None of that makes fighters rich—it just makes the company fat. That’s why every big UFC name eventually crawls into boxing for real money. Keep coping with your billion-dollar "brand power" while fighters are begging for healthcare. Again, you've goalpost shifted to a completely unrelated topic to the one you started off with. You claimed the UFC was American-centered, not global and minor league. Fighter pay has nothing to do with that. And LOL at acting like McGregor–Floyd being a mega event somehow proves UFC is "major league" No, that just proves boxing is the real main stage. You do realise theres been like 4-5 UFC PPVs in the last 10 years that outdrew any non gimmick boxing PPV thats happened over the same time frame right? As for your FACTS half your rant is just corporate cheerleading. No, revenue figures, nationalities of champions, locations of cards etc etc are quite literally just stone cold facts. "da UFC is like McDonalds and boxing is like a fancy restaurant" on the other hand, is not. UFC is WWE with real punches. Lol Fury boxed an MMA fighter making his debut last year while he was the literal HW champ of the world and no1 ranked. A Youtuber vs a near 60 year old Mike Tyson was the most watched boxing match of 2024, that same Youtuber vs a guy who is supposed to be a current p4p top 10 level talent may well end up being the most watched boxing match of 2025. The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are a retired boxer vs an MMA fighter and an exhibition between two guys in their 50s. 48 year old Carl Froch is probably about to come out of retirement to box an MMA fighter in what will be one of the biggest boxing matches of the year if it happens too. But yeah the UFC Is the WWE. YEAH consistently underdelivering on pay and matchmaking. Are you seriously suggesting the UFC isnt making evenly matched fights between top ranked fighters on a much more consistent basis than boxing? And don’t worry about my analogy, it clearly hit a nerve since you spent your time crying about it. Flashy fast food is exactly what UFC is, a quick hype, cheap ingredients, bad for the fighters but addictive to casuals like you. Boxing is the fine dining, takes time, costs more, and actually rewards the people making it happen. You don’t sound like an MMA fan, you sound like an unpaid UFC intern trying to convince the internet that slave wages are a good thing. Keep running PR for Dana, maybe he’ll give you a free Fight Pass subscription for your loyalty. It didnt hit a nerve at all, i'm obviously a fan of both sports and think theres plenty of qualities boxing has over MMA, I even said on the previous page I feel boxing is overall in a slightly better place right now. I'm just enjoying making you try to explain your way out of your mindless takes to see what retarded direction you'll take things next to keep up your narrative in the face of all the factual information you've been given. So go on, humour me, tell me who these "flavour of the month brawlers" are that the UFC apparently keeps hyping up?

No, i'm just giving you factual information that contradicts your narrative. You started off arguing about how the UFC is American centered now you're goalpost shifting to a completely unrelated topic to try and distract from being completely wrong. So what you're saying is the guys from the "minor league" are being paid tons of money to walk straight into the "major league" with 0-0 records in that sport and in many cases when past their prime, and are instantly being given PPV main events against major boxing names, with these fights often being among the most mainstream visible fights in boxing (The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are Floyd/Conor and 54 year old Tyson vs 51 year old RJJ lol) meanwhile the boxers that come to MMA are fighting in B league promotions, most recent case being Claressa Shields in PFL going life and death with chicks with 1-2 records. Fighter pay relates to profit not revenue, the fact is the "minor league" UFC generates over a billion dollars in revenue per year, far more than any boxing promotion. Even in years where theres a relative lack of buzz and big stars its still raking in money because, like the WWE or traditional sports leagues like the NFL etc, the UFC brand itself has a degree of drawing power and as such can still generate fairly consistent interest even in quieter times. Hence why it just got signed to a new 7 year broadcast deal for $7.7bn while boxing promotions have been getting dropped from networks like a bad habit. For perspective, ESPN was paying Top Rank just $80m a year and didnt bother to renew. and you keep worshipping insanely bloated fight purses like you get a cut. I love how you preceded "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining," with "its really just facts you dont like" like you were about to hit me with some cold hard facts. For future reference "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining" is the absolute epitome of an opinion, not a fact. You said one factual thing, that being that it is indeed the highest paying combat sport...cool I guess? Anyway, you dont even watch MMA so how the **** would you be able to accurately assess its entertainment value compared to boxing? I mean I suppose for comedic value I could ask you to elaborate on what the **** you actually mean with your pretentious analogy, I forgot to ask you to name names regarding who these supposed "flavour of the month brawlers" the UFC was pushing too, but i'll let you off the hook because i'm sure you're tired of digging and we are both wasting our time at this point. Relax tiger, you just wrote a whole dissertation defending Dana White like he’s your sugar daddy. You keep spewing revenue numbers and TV deals like you’re on the UFC payroll, but guess what? None of that makes fighters rich—it just makes the company fat. That’s why every big UFC name eventually crawls into boxing for real money. Keep coping with your billion-dollar "brand power" while fighters are begging for healthcare. And LOL at acting like McGregor–Floyd being a mega event somehow proves UFC is "major league" No, that just proves boxing is the real main stage. Your stars need boxing to get paid; boxing stars don’t need UFC for anything. That’s literally textbook minor league behavior. As for your FACTS half your rant is just corporate cheerleading. UFC is WWE with real punches.. overhyped, overcontrolled, and underpaying. You brag about "consistency" YEAH consistently underdelivering on pay and matchmaking. And don’t worry about my analogy, it clearly hit a nerve since you spent your time crying about it. Flashy fast food is exactly what UFC is, a quick hype, cheap ingredients, bad for the fighters but addictive to casuals like you. Boxing is the fine dining, takes time, costs more, and actually rewards the people making it happen. You don’t sound like an MMA fan, you sound like an unpaid UFC intern trying to convince the internet that slave wages are a good thing. Keep running PR for Dana, maybe he’ll give you a free Fight Pass subscription for your loyalty.

You really flexing event stats like you’re Dana White’s unpaid intern, huh? Lmao. No, i'm just giving you factual information that contradicts your narrative. Running cards in 12 countries doesn’t magically erase the fact that UFC fighters are still underpaid compared to boxers fighting in just one. Global exploitation is still exploitation,it just means Dana figured out how to squeeze wallets worldwide. You started off arguing about how the UFC is American centered now you're goalpost shifting to a completely unrelated topic to try and distract from being completely wrong. And thanks for the lecture on viewership, but maybe ask yourself why UFC fighters keep crossing over to BOXING for paydays. Fury–Ngannou, Mayweather–McGregor, Jake Paul clown shows, every time it’s boxing that sets the stage and UFC guys that chase the money. Minor leagues behavior, plain and simple. So what you're saying is the guys from the "minor league" are being paid tons of money to walk straight into the "major league" with 0-0 records in that sport and in many cases when past their prime, and are instantly being given PPV main events against major boxing names, with these fights often being among the most mainstream visible fights in boxing (The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are Floyd/Conor and 54 year old Tyson vs 51 year old RJJ lol) meanwhile the boxers that come to MMA are fighting in B league promotions, most recent case being Claressa Shields in PFL going life and death with chicks with 1-2 records. As for networks paying UFC more, yeah, because the company hogs all the revenue while fighters get scraps. Fighter pay relates to profit not revenue, the fact is the "minor league" UFC generates over a billion dollars in revenue per year, far more than any boxing promotion. Even in years where theres a relative lack of buzz and big stars its still raking in money because, like the WWE or traditional sports leagues like the NFL etc, the UFC brand itself has a degree of drawing power and as such can still generate fairly consistent interest even in quieter times. Hence why it just got signed to a new 7 year broadcast deal for $7.7bn while boxing promotions have been getting dropped from networks like a bad habit. For perspective, ESPN was paying Top Rank just $80m a year and didnt bother to renew. But keep worshipping broadcast contracts like you get a cut. and you keep worshipping insanely bloated fight purses like you get a cut. but it’s really just facts you don’t like: UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining, historic, global, and still the highest-paying arena for fighters. Enjoy your McMMA, casual. I love how you preceded "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining," with "its really just facts you dont like" like you were about to hit me with some cold hard facts. For future reference "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining" is the absolute epitome of an opinion, not a fact. You said one factual thing, that being that it is indeed the highest paying combat sport...cool I guess? Anyway, you dont even watch MMA so how the fuck would you be able to accurately assess its entertainment value compared to boxing? I mean I suppose for comedic value I could ask you to elaborate on what the fuck you actually mean with your pretentious analogy, I forgot to ask you to name names regarding who these supposed "flavour of the month brawlers" the UFC was pushing too, but i'll let you off the hook because i'm sure you're tired of digging and we are both wasting our time at this point.

Running cards in 12 countries this year alone, 9 nationalities represented across the 11 belt holders currently, 20 nationalities represented across 30 main events so far this year, 6 nationalities in their p4p top 10, 11 nationalities on yesterdays card (where two thirds of the commentary team were British), Sounds pretty global to me. Can you tell me which boxing cards you think are generating more viewers spread across a wider range of countries on the typical weekend? See above. Its a shame you're doubling down on this obviously ****** take after getting thoroughly schooled on a topic you are clearly way out of your depth trying to argue over. I'm not actually American btw which makes this even funnier. I see. So how are they generating so much revenue and why are networks willing to pay them so much more for broadcasting rights when they're supposedly the minor leagues compared to boxing? Pure emotion based blindly tribalistic arguments again. You really flexing event stats like you’re Dana White’s unpaid intern, huh? Lmao. Running cards in 12 countries doesn’t magically erase the fact that UFC fighters are still underpaid compared to boxers fighting in just one. Global exploitation is still exploitation,it just means Dana figured out how to squeeze wallets worldwide. And thanks for the lecture on viewership, but maybe ask yourself why UFC fighters keep crossing over to BOXING for paydays. Fury–Ngannou, Mayweather–McGregor, Jake Paul clown shows, every time it’s boxing that sets the stage and UFC guys that chase the money. Minor leagues behavior, plain and simple. As for networks paying UFC more, yeah, because the company hogs all the revenue while fighters get scraps. Boxing isn’t centralized so the money goes to the fighters, not one monopoly. But keep worshipping broadcast contracts like you get a cut. You can call it "tribalism" all you want, but it’s really just facts you don’t like: UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining, historic, global, and still the highest-paying arena for fighters. Enjoy your McMMA, casual.

like that somehow props up the UFC’s "global" status. Running cards in 12 countries this year alone, 9 nationalities represented across the 11 belt holders currently, 20 nationalities represented across 30 main events so far this year, 6 nationalities in their p4p top 10, 11 nationalities on yesterdays card (where two thirds of the commentary team were British), Sounds pretty global to me. Can you tell me which boxing cards you think are generating more viewers spread across a wider range of countries on the typical weekend? doesn’t magically make it less of an American-centered product See above. Its a shame you're doubling down on this obviously stupid take after getting thoroughly schooled on a topic you are clearly way out of your depth trying to argue over. I'm not actually American btw which makes this even funnier. Yeah, UFC makes bank but their fighters sure don’t. I see. So how are they generating so much revenue and why are networks willing to pay them so much more for broadcasting rights when they're supposedly the minor leagues compared to boxing? UFC is the flashy fast food chain, quick hype, cheap labor. Boxing is the Michelin star restaurant, historic, international, and still the standard everyone else copies. Pure emotion based blindly tribalistic arguments again.

You mean like Top Rank, PBC and Golden Boy? "a few international shows" lmao. A significant proportion of their cards nowadays are international cards. Maybe you should Google their events schedule like you're saying I did? An "American product dressed up for export" that has 1 American champ, 0 male champs, no Americans in the p4p top 10, where the majority of the fighters are not American and the majority of main events dont feature an American. Makes total sense. Last year Eastern Europe based promotion Oktagon drew a crowd of 60k for a card in Germany, same year Japanese promotion Rizin drew a crowd of 50k in Japan, again same year Polish promotion KSW did 30k+ in France and the previous year did 50k in its home country. Not bad for for an "American sport" eh? If you actually followed both sports instead of spouting off 00s era talking points like they still apply you'd realise theres way more American representation at the top levels of boxing than MMA these days. This part makes it clear that you're just being tribalistic and emotional so your opinions are governed by irrational hatred rather than actual knowledge or logic. Obviously I am a fan of boxing as well and actually think its doing slightly better than MMA in recent years overall, the UFC doesnt really "look cute now" most people think its actually having a quieter period compared to some of the boom periods its had in the past. To call it the "minor leagues" is hilarious though when they've just done a new tv deal worth more than the broadcasting rights of every major boxing promotion combined. Its the biggest combat sports promotion on the planet by a huge margin. You still missed the point. Congrats on listing every non-UFC promotion in Europe like that somehow props up the UFC’s "global" status. Newsflash: UFC is still owned, operated, and milked out of Las Vegas. Throwing fighters from other countries on the roster doesn’t magically make it less of an American-centered product, it just makes Dana White richer while fighters everywhere else get scrap. And lol @ bragging about TV deals. Yeah, UFC makes bank but their fighters sure don’t. That’s why half the roster is begging to box for real money. Boxing’s "tribalism" as you call it, is the exact reason fighters earn generational wealth instead of peanuts for brain damage Boxing built combat sports, it has legends known worldwide, and it pays on a scale UFC can only dream of. UFC is the flashy fast food chain, quick hype, cheap labor. Boxing is the Michelin star restaurant, historic, international, and still the standard everyone else copies.

the UFC is run out of the US You mean like Top Rank, PBC and Golden Boy? Stop acting like throwing a few international shows makes it a global sport, . "a few international shows" lmao. A significant proportion of their cards nowadays are international cards. Maybe you should Google their events schedule like you're saying I did? it’s still an American product dressed up for export An "American product dressed up for export" that has 1 American champ, 0 male champs, no Americans in the p4p top 10, where the majority of the fighters are not American and the majority of main events dont feature an American. Makes total sense. Last year Eastern Europe based promotion Oktagon drew a crowd of 60k for a card in Germany, same year Japanese promotion Rizin drew a crowd of 50k in Japan, again same year Polish promotion KSW did 30k+ in France and the previous year did 50k in its home country. Not bad for for an "American sport" eh? If you actually followed both sports instead of spouting off 00s era talking points like they still apply you'd realise theres way more American representation at the top levels of boxing than MMA these days. And bragging about 32 years? Please. Boxing has been around for centuries, creating legends across generations and continents, not just hyped up flavor of the-month brawlers. UFC might look cute now, but it’ll always be the minor leagues compared to boxing’s worldwide history, reach, and money. Call me when UFC fighters stop begging for boxing paydays. This part makes it clear that you're just being tribalistic and emotional so your opinions are governed by irrational hatred rather than actual knowledge or logic. Obviously I am a fan of boxing as well and actually think its doing slightly better than MMA in recent years overall, the UFC doesnt really "look cute now" most people think its actually having a quieter period compared to some of the boom periods its had in the past. To call it the "minor leagues" is hilarious though when they've just done a new tv deal worth more than the broadcasting rights of every major boxing promotion combined. Its the biggest combat sports promotion on the planet by a huge margin.

Theres one American UFC champ right now out of 11 champions. The last two UFC cards took place in France and China, 5 of their next 10 cards are happening outside of America. You're talking like its 2005 not 2025. The UFC has existed for 32 years now too, thats not exactly short term entertainment is it? I do agree though that a UFC model wouldnt work with boxing for various reasons. The vastly higher fight purses in boxing being one major factor. Congrats, you just Googled UFC’s event schedule like that somehow proves it isn’t an American-centered business. France and China cards don’t magically erase the fact that the UFC is run out of the US, with Dana White and his cronies pulling the strings in Vegas. Stop acting like throwing a few international shows makes it a global sport, it’s still an American product dressed up for export. And bragging about 32 years? Please. Boxing has been around for centuries, creating legends across generations and continents, not just hyped up flavor of the-month brawlers. UFC might look cute now, but it’ll always be the minor leagues compared to boxing’s worldwide history, reach, and money. Call me when UFC fighters stop begging for boxing paydays.

The UFC only looks shiny cause it’s centralized in the US but let’s be real, the US ain’t the entire world. Boxing is global. We’ve got champions from Mexico, UK, Japan, Eastern Europe, Africa..literally everywhere. You think one company in Vegas can run the whole sport? That’s laughable. Sure, the UFC model gives you hype for a few years, but it’s a bubble short-term entertainment, not long-term sustainability. Boxing’s decentralized system may be messy, but that’s exactly why it’s alive and thriving worldwide while UFC stays a US-centric circus. Theres one American UFC champ right now out of 11 champions. The last two UFC cards took place in France and China, 5 of their next 10 cards are happening outside of America. You're talking like its 2005 not 2025. The UFC has existed for 32 years now too, thats not exactly short term entertainment is it? I do agree though that a UFC model wouldnt work with boxing for various reasons. The vastly higher fight purses in boxing being one major factor.

UFC is dying and boxing is on the Up & Up! Boxing is reaching new heights it's never reached before!

The UFC only looks shiny cause it’s centralized in the US but let’s be real, the US ain’t the entire world. Boxing is global. We’ve got champions from Mexico, UK, Japan, Eastern Europe, Africa..literally everywhere. You think one company in Vegas can run the whole sport? That’s laughable. Sure, the UFC model gives you hype for a few years, but it’s a bubble short-term entertainment, not long-term sustainability. Boxing’s decentralized system may be messy, but that’s exactly why it’s alive and thriving worldwide while UFC stays a US-centric circus.