its a business, zero chance he fights kabayel next too, not known enough, he said he is gonna fight once more, its probably fury , could be parker
But isn't usyk about legacy?
its a business, zero chance he fights kabayel next too, not known enough, he said he is gonna fight once more, its probably fury , could be parker
Fat chance Usyk fights the Gypsy Sausage King. He doesn't deserve it, hasnt earnt it and couldn't get up for it anyway.
Fury is very much yesterday's man!
Why don't you think ajit is on usyk radar?
its a business, zero chance he fights kabayel next too, not known enough, he said he is gonna fight once more, its probably fury , could be parker
Let's be real here Usyk went 7-5 or 8-4 with Benidorm fury with no legs left and love handles.
Itauma has a chance, I don't care what anyone says.
"Tyson Fury's statement, "no middleweight is gonna beat me," was a taunt directed at his opponent, Oleksandr Usyk, to downplay Usyk's past achievements. Fury made this comment before their undisputed heavyweight championship fight in May 2024"
Prior tothis schooling, Fury was supposed to be Ali's superior :lol1:
Usyk trolls Fury doesn't mean shït.
Usyk really wants fury. Not saying fury deserves it but usyk noticed his bank balance is high after tussleing with fury
Usyk fighting Fury again would be a cherry now
beat him every time two in a row the second time wider and clearly
That cherry's been well and truly popped!
- - Watching single digit IQs dropping en masse...priceless!!!you went from 2 to 1
Usyk trolls Fury doesn't mean shït.Usyk fighting Fury again would be a cherry now
beat him every time two in a row the second time wider and clearly
And maybe losing a 3rd fight might get em a 4th. Haven't you had enough of the endless rotation of hyped up flawed British fighters jumping the queue for a title shot ?
But usyk has mentioned fury x3. Fury said he best him, so usyk might want a ko win.
Oleksandr Uysk has one decisive win at Heavyweight vs Daniel Dubois II 'and as a Cruiserweight Champion, again? He was not the most dominant or formidable fighter. The only fighter he was able to knock out was a completely dead at the weight Toney Bellew. At the time of the stoppage, two of the judges had Bellew winning and one judge had the fight completely level'.
It seems like you only consider a KO a decisive win. I - and I assume the majority of people - have a different opinion; a UD can be just as decisive as a KO. For me, Joshua 1 and Fury 2 were decisive wins, where Usyk did not struggle one bit, was never in danger. He pushed through with his game plan, and had success.
Note: You can think what you want, but the reality is? All you are doing is Mollycoddling Oleksandr Uysk. With your altitude of 'awwww but look he was outweighed by so many pounds, and he had to fight all those fighters away from home. Who cares seriously? That does not get away from the fact that he was pushed right to the line by a miles outside of his peak Derek Chisora, and on the verge of retirement after each fight vs Tyson Fury I & II and Anthony Joshua I & II'
Pushed to the line by winning a UD, not being knocked down or anything - just because Chisroa tried to bully him in the first 2 rounds?
And "on the verge of retirement" after each Joshua and Fury fight? That is totally made up, and particularly nonsensical given the fact that he was contractually bound to give a rematch after the first Fury and first Joshua fights - he never tried to walk away from those. But feel free to provide any kind of proof for that.
To my knowledge, all he ever said about was (directly post fight) that he wanted to have a rest now and spend time with his family - a very sensible statement. At one point, unrelated to the Fury and Joshua fights, he also stated that he thinks he has about 2 fights left, and that he sometimes thinks about retirement, because he achieved everything that he wanted to achieve at HW.
Oleksandr Uysk has only had one fight this year 'And like I stated in my first post, that one fight against a fighter in Daniel Dubois II who is a front runner at top level. That one fight, has almost completely written him off for 2025'.
No matter what you say, no matter how hard to try 'You are not going to convince me, or any boxing analyst that knows the sport. That Oleksandr Uysk is a formidable fighter, in the same way that Mike Tyson, Roy Jones or even Lennox Lewis was in his peak form',
I am not trying to convince you of anything, because neither your, nor my, opinion matters the least bit in terms of boxing history. The history books will state that Usyk came up to HW as an undisputed CW champion, and against all odds, beat the top HWs at the time, to become the first undisputed HW since Lennox Lewis. Those are the facts, like them or not.
The media has over exaggerated Oleksandr Uysk wins over Daniel Dubois I & II 'Because it was a very unusual manner for a Uysk win. He actually knocked another top level fighter out or did he? Maybe Dubois's trait of being a front runner just surfaced. The rounds more than anything beat Dubois'.
I don't care what the media say, or don't say - Dubois was not a top level opponent, and the win, KO or not, was not great in my opinion. Solid, yes, but at this point in time, Dubois, though heavy handed, is not on the same level on which Fury or prime Joshua were when they fought Usyk. Maybe Dubois will be top level one day, he is still relatively young - maybe he can work on his mental weakness, because he quit in both fights.
I would back both Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua in a trilogy fight against Uysk 'And I don't think for one second that Oleksandr Uysk would dominant Joseph Parker' etc.
hugh grant
lol if u backed AJ and Fury v usyk you would lose money, surely that has been proven by now, well to most people it has anyway!
Oleksandr Uysk has one decisive win at Heavyweight vs Daniel Dubois II 'and as a Cruiserweight Champion, again? He was not the most dominant or formidable fighter. The only fighter he was able to knock out was a completely dead at the weight Toney Bellew. At the time of the stoppage, two of the judges had Bellew winning and one judge had the fight completely level'.
Note: You can think what you want, but the reality is? All you are doing is Mollycoddling Oleksandr Uysk. With your altitude of 'awwww but look he was outweighed by so many pounds, and he had to fight all those fighters away from home. Who cares seriously? That does not get away from the fact that he was pushed right to the line by a miles outside of his peak Derek Chisora, and on the verge of retirement after each fight vs Tyson Fury I & II and Anthony Joshua I & II'
Oleksandr Uysk has only had one fight this year 'And like I stated in my first post, that one fight against a fighter in Daniel Dubois II who is a front runner at top level. That one fight, has almost completely written him off for 2025'.
No matter what you say, no matter how hard to try 'You are not going to convince me, or any boxing analyst that knows the sport. That Oleksandr Uysk is a formidable fighter, in the same way that Mike Tyson, Roy Jones or even Lennox Lewis was in his peak form',
The media has over exaggerated Oleksandr Uysk wins over Daniel Dubois I & II 'Because it was a very unusual manner for a Uysk win. He actually knocked another top level fighter out or did he? Maybe Dubois's trait of being a front runner just surfaced. The rounds more than anything beat Dubois'.
You do understand Hugh Grant that David Haye was the first fighter to ever deck or knockout Derek Chisora 'This fight happened 8 years prior to Chisora vs Uysk. Derek Chisora believes that he beat Oleksandr Uysk, I am quite sure? That Chisora would rate David Haye at his absolute peak, or in solid form as a more formidable and dangerous fighter than Oleksandr Uysk'.
David Haye fought Derek Chisora in 2012 'he was the first heavyweight fighter to meet force vs force against Chisora and cancel out his momentum. Knocking him out inside 5 rounds. 8 years later Derek Chisora fought Oleksandr Uysk, miles outside of his peak and pushed him right to the line. In a extremely competitive fight, that he himself believed he won and also many observers shared this opinion and belief'.
To conclude: Oleksandr Uysk for sure is an all-time great fighter 'He has been able to compile a impressive resume of statistics. But when I compare him to other great fighter's peak for peak, skill for skill. I don't think he is a formidable fighter, there are many past and current fighters still even in the latter stages of this heavyweight era who I would give a serious chance of beating him'.
I would back both Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua in a trilogy fight against Uysk 'And I don't think for one second that Oleksandr Uysk would dominant Joseph Parker' etc.
hugh grant
I don't understand what you.mean by dominant or formidable? Floyd werent as dominant or formidable as pac was against dlh, cotto or hatton, but you won't use that way of measuring like you are with usyk? Ali wasn't as dominant against frasier as foreman was.
If nobody can beat usyk this era, he will be seen as dominant this era, and certainly formiddable. To suggest haye is a more dominant and formidable heavyweight on the basis of how they fared against chisora is cherry picking at its finest from where I'm standing
Haye fought a single actual top level opponent at HW, and that was Wladimir Klitschko, who quite frankly embarrassed him. Chisora, even at his "absolute peak", was a tough gatekeeper, but never held a single belt or achieved anything remarkable (who did he beat?). Valuev was huge but (contrary to Fury) very immobile, and never considered the HW king. I hope you are not comparing Chisora and Valuev to Joshua and Fury (the No. 1 and 2 in the division at the time), against both of which Usyk won a UD in one of their matches - and that without any home bonus, and despite being the clearly smaller man.
Yes, Haye had one punch knockout power, which Usyk lacks. That being said, he had enough power to knock Fury down, and had Joshua stumbling around the ring and sitting on the
ropes (and was then saved by the ref/bell).
Usyk had four real top level HW wins: 2 x Fury and 2x Joshua. As mentioned above, 2 of those were UDs - there was nothing competitive about Joshua 1 (117-112, 116-112, 115-113) or Fury 2 (3 x 116-112). Those were dominant wins.
I don't think Canelo was Mayweather's best fight, not at all actually. Canelo was still far from his prime at the time AND Mayweather made Canelo come in at 152. That is exactly the point I made in my previous post: Usyk never had the luxury of making his much larger HW opponents come down in weight for him. And he STILL beat them.
That's a contradiction, don't you think? I agree though that he doesn't scare his opponents, because he quite simply is not a knockout artist. That doesn't mean he is not formidable - he just doesn't pose too much of a health risk compared to e.g. Wilder in his prime.
No, they are not - and I never said that. 2 x Fury and 2 x Joshua, those are great wins, especially since - and again I am coming back to my original post - they were much heavier, more powerful, and were the legitimate No. 1 and 2 HWs at the time. Nobody had given him a chance in the HW division (including me: my bet was on Joshua in the first fight - but I was wrong).
I have proven what I wanted to prove: that he beat the top HWs, despite being the clearly smaller man (with all associated disadvantages), and never at home. That is a factor you simply cannot deny.
Regarding "smashed up", that's clearly exaggerated: in their first fight, Fury did some damage, yes. Maybe Joshua a little bit in their second fight. He wasn't knocked down a single time, by those giants.
Yes, agreed, except for the "battle of attrition" (that I would use for fights like Lewis-Klitschko, Tyson-Holyfield, etc).
Oleksandr Uysk has one decisive win at Heavyweight vs Daniel Dubois II 'and as a Cruiserweight Champion, again? He was not the most dominant or formidable fighter. The only fighter he was able to knock out was a completely dead at the weight Toney Bellew. At the time of the stoppage, two of the judges had Bellew winning and one judge had the fight completely level'.
Note: You can think what you want, but the reality is? All you are doing is Mollycoddling Oleksandr Uysk. With your altitude of 'awwww but look he was outweighed by so many pounds, and he had to fight all those fighters away from home. Who cares seriously? That does not get away from the fact that he was pushed right to the line by a miles outside of his peak Derek Chisora, and on the verge of retirement after each fight vs Tyson Fury I & II and Anthony Joshua I & II'
Oleksandr Uysk has only had one fight this year 'And like I stated in my first post, that one fight against a fighter in Daniel Dubois II who is a front runner at top level. That one fight, has almost completely written him off for 2025'.
No matter what you say, no matter how hard to try 'You are not going to convince me, or any boxing analyst that knows the sport. That Oleksandr Uysk is a formidable fighter, in the same way that Mike Tyson, Roy Jones or even Lennox Lewis was in his peak form',
The media has over exaggerated Oleksandr Uysk wins over Daniel Dubois I & II 'Because it was a very unusual manner for a Uysk win. He actually knocked another top level fighter out or did he? Maybe Dubois's trait of being a front runner just surfaced. The rounds more than anything beat Dubois'.
You do understand Hugh Grant that David Haye was the first fighter to ever deck or knockout Derek Chisora 'This fight happened 8 years prior to Chisora vs Uysk. Derek Chisora believes that he beat Oleksandr Uysk, I am quite sure? That Chisora would rate David Haye at his absolute peak, or in solid form as a more formidable and dangerous fighter than Oleksandr Uysk'.
David Haye fought Derek Chisora in 2012 'he was the first heavyweight fighter to meet force vs force against Chisora and cancel out his momentum. Knocking him out inside 5 rounds. 8 years later Derek Chisora fought Oleksandr Uysk, miles outside of his peak and pushed him right to the line. In a extremely competitive fight, that he himself believed he won and also many observers shared this opinion and belief'.
To conclude: Oleksandr Uysk for sure is an all-time great fighter 'He has been able to compile a impressive resume of statistics. But when I compare him to other great fighter's peak for peak, skill for skill. I don't think he is a formidable fighter, there are many past and current fighters still even in the latter stages of this heavyweight era who I would give a serious chance of beating him'.
I would back both Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua in a trilogy fight against Uysk 'And I don't think for one second that Oleksandr Uysk would dominant Joseph Parker' etc.
hugh grant
Really? I actually think chisora intimated that wasn't the real chisora that day against haye.
I thought you knew chisora said usyk is the best he faced
Oh really? Didn't know that, no. Interesting.
Really? I actually think chisora intimated that wasn't the real chisora that day
Google images for "Haye Chisora friends". There are even pics where they cuddle up, both wearing pink pants.
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