For years GGG was billed as this monster, but when Canelo stepped to him he showed he wasn’t as effective on the back foot.
Is Usyk a more advanced fighter than GGG ever was?
Usyk fought fury in 2024!!! you telling me that's the same fury? fury fought wilder in 2020 and got dropped, etc... Usyk didnt fight fury until 4 years later. fighters supposed to stay the same??? fury couldnt even stop an MMA fighter!!! that's not the same fury anymore.
Fury getting dropped is not breaking news, especially against the hardest hitting puncher of that time in Wilder, he was dropped in their first fight and came back to look better than ever. He was THE CHAMP, lineal, undefeated, and 3 years younger. To call him shot or compare him to no names on GGG resume is crazy work.
Usyk is fortunate he hasn't had to deal with American boxing politics.
If Fury was American and Usyk vs Fury 1 was in the US, Usyk would have been robbed. Same for AJ 2 and possibly even AJ 1.
Usyk hasn't had to deal with all that like Lomachenko, GGG, Kovalev and many others have.
USA boxing would have stolen Usyks 0 and enough American fanboys would argue that "well it was close" that people would just accept that Usyk was a defeated boxer and it would heavily impact his historical standing just like happened to GGG, Loma, Kovalev and many more
This is the reason I hope Inoue isn't ****** enough to fight in America anymore more as well.
u are prob right with this actually
Usyk is fortunate he hasn't had to deal with American boxing politics.
If Fury was American and Usyk vs Fury 1 was in the US, Usyk would have been robbed. Same for AJ 2 and possibly even AJ 1.
Usyk hasn't had to deal with all that like Lomachenko, GGG, Kovalev and many others have.
USA boxing would have stolen Usyks 0 and enough American fanboys would argue that "well it was close" that people would just accept that Usyk was a defeated boxer and it would heavily impact his historical standing just like happened to GGG, Loma, Kovalev and many more
This is the reason I hope Inoue isn't stupid enough to fight in America anymore more as well.
You left out Ginger was gifted a draw in their 1st fight and the 2nd fight, after Ginger pissed dirty af, AND was a 50/50 fight, while the 3rd was a wash cause ginger aged him out.
I love your bs post cause its moronic af.
But back to your question, Usyk is better than GGGRANDPA ever was, and definitely better than Ginger ever could be
You were obviously breast-fed by your Dad to be this dumb. That wasn’t milk buddy.
I didn’t say anything about who won their first fight. I just said golovkin isn’t as effective on the back foot. Use some reading comprehension.
Usyk is more skilled. GGG had heavier hands. head to head if they are the same size I would pick Usyk
Their resumes are also not even close. GGG's best win is a guy moving up from the lower division. Usyk's best wins have 20-40 pounds on him
I agree with the Alpha fäggot
GGG probably one of my favourite fighters ever. He has an iron mindset, unbreakable will and total dedication to his craft. But didn’t have as much adaptability that Usyk possesses. Usyk can adjust to compete with any style, whereas Golovkin struggled against other boxer punchers with very close fights. Not to mention Usyk went undisputed in two divisions (though it was much easier for Usyk to get the fights).
To fall short in comparison to what I believe is an all time great in Usyk, is no shame at all. GGG would be around the top of the division at 160 in any era.
Usyk is more skilled. GGG had heavier hands. head to head if they are the same size I would pick Usyk
Their resumes are also not even close. GGG's best win is a guy moving up from the lower division. Usyk's best wins have 20-40 pounds on him
bro, I said at the time Usyk fought them. they weren't the same fighters anymore... AJ was always overrated. and when usyk fought fury. that was a washed up fury. so if you factor all that in, AJ and fury are equivalent to rosado and kell Brook.
What do you mean they weren't the same fighters, the same fighters as what and when? AJ had all the belts minus the WBC, redeemed himself against Ruiz, and was coming off one of his most impressive looking victories in Pulev, he was also about 3 years younger than Usyk.
Tyson Fury was undefeated, the lineal champion, was considered the best heavyweight in the world and was also 3 years younger than Usyk. To say he was washed is equivalent to saying that Evander Holyfield was washed after his win over Bert Cooper.
At no point did Rosado and Kelly Brook come close to achieving what Fury and AJ have.
We’re only talking heavyweight, but Usyk also defeated, Bellew, Briedis, Hunter, Gassiev etc… GGG resume is solid but subpar when compared to Usyk, even if you give him back to back wins against Canelo.
1st fight was ruled a draw in which most felt GGG won.
Usyk have wins over an overrated AJ and a washed fury. you can make a case that AJ = gab rosado and washed fury = kell brook.
Gab rosa and Kell Brook.... really bro? Thats who you think is a better name than AJ or Fury? I'd like to know where you buy your drugs.
To be honest, Usyk was never feared to the degree Golovkin was. Because of the different styles: Usyk may outpoint you, but in the worst case you'll lose a decision. This was a narrative. Only later it became more evident, that he'll beat you with a high pace and superior conditioning and you'll likely not make it to the final bell.. Still it did not look that threatening, while GGG was a destruction personified. And this fact worked to Usyk's advantage perfectly, because he was getting all those fights, while GGG had to settle for whoever was brave enough, while he was in his prime.
As I've mentioned before, Usyk was fortunate he was able to have a tournament in his division. Like Inoue, Taylor and Ward before him, they were afforded an opportunity to get to fight the best in their division, something Golovkin obviously wasn't able to do.
To be honest, Usyk was never feared to the degree Golovkin was. Because of the different styles: Usyk may outpoint you, but in the worst case you'll lose a decision. This was a narrative. Only later it became more evident, that he'll beat you with a high pace and superior conditioning and you'll likely not make it to the final bell.. Still it did not look that threatening, while GGG was a destruction personified. And this fact worked to Usyk's advantage perfectly, because he was getting all those fights, while GGG had to settle for whoever was brave enough, while he was in his prime.
It's not that GGG career was mismanaged back in the day he simply could not get fights even in Germany, then Froch didn't want it in 2015, and Canelo waited GGG out and got tested for PEDS in camp. All around GGG declined slightly because of Abel Sanchez messed him up, G was a magnificent technical boxer in the olympics. Overal Usyk still has more of the complete package.
AJ overrated, and the version of fury that usyk fought and beat is a washed fury... that's like pac fans hyping up the oscar win. it's a good name but not the best version.
You didn't answer the question, name one W on GGG resume that is better than AJ and or Fury?
My guy, AJ and Fury are far better victories than anyone that Golovkin has defeated. Who is the best guy that GGG beat, Daniel Jacobs, Willie Monroe lol? Even Dubois is a better victory than any of GGG W's.
AJ overrated, and the version of fury that usyk fought and beat is a washed fury... that's like pac fans hyping up the oscar win. it's a good name but not the best version.
Golovkin hasn't really got the resume of Usyk.
However, we know Golovkin's record is a false one. He beat Canelo those first two fights, he shouldn't have a draw and a loss from those. They should be wins.
Being realistic, against Usyk, Briedis and Fury in the first fight did pretty much about as well as Canelo did in the first two GGG fights (Actually both did better than Canelo in the first). The only difference is the judges scored it it correctly for Usyk.
GGG's record doesn't really tell the whole truth.
Usyk can and should be considered greater because he dominated two divisions. Could GGG have dominated more top fighters and a couple of divisions if he wasn't well avoided for a good few years before he was even fighting on HBO? Probably but we'll never know.
So we have to give the edge to Usyk based on accomplishments, I think prime GGG was just as good a fighter though.
so who did he beat then??? i asked you this 3x, and you keep avoiding it. aside from AJ or fury, who did he beat that is a notable name? GGG has a better resume, plain and simple.
My guy, AJ and Fury are far better victories than anyone that Golovkin has defeated. Who is the best guy that GGG beat, Daniel Jacobs, Willie Monroe lol? Even Dubois is a better victory than any of GGG W's.
For years GGG was billed as this monster, but when Canelo stepped to him he showed he wasn’t as effective on the back foot.
Is Usyk a more advanced fighter than GGG ever was?
GGG defeated Canelo in both of their first 2 fights....