Sorry Ali fans, Usyk has replaced him as “The Greatest” Heavyweight.

Usyk is GREAT !!!!! But honestly, has he really done enough to be in the same company with Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko???? Fury and Joshua getting nicked by close decisions in their last couple of fights, plus Dubois. Get ahold of yourselves, I'm thinking. Beat Parker, Kabayel and Itauma and he'll have a strong case. Failing that? Just a superb fighter who stayed at a springboard division too long and entered the flagship division at the tail end of an era to pick up their belts after 2 of the 3 c. 2015 - 2020 era champions showed that their prime years were demonstrably just behind them. Likely, it was nothing that Parker, Kabayel and Itauma couldn't have also done just as neatly, if we're being honest. Great; but hardly 'the greatest".:haha: make a wish because Usyk be on that one year a fight program. the normalization of this fight frequency regresses the sport of boxing Usyk might not even be the best from his own country let alone replacing the heavyweight goat and top 7 all time Muhammad

Usyk is GREAT !!!!! But honestly, has he really done enough to be in the same company with Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko???? Fury and Joshua getting nicked by close decisions in their last couple of fights, plus Dubois. Get ahold of yourselves, I'm thinking. Beat Parker, Kabayel and Itauma and he'll have a strong case. Failing that? Just a superb fighter who stayed at a springboard division too long and entered the flagship division at the tail end of an era to pick up their belts after 2 of the 3 c. 2015 - 2020 era champions showed that their prime years were demonstrably just behind them. Likely, it was nothing that Parker, Kabayel and Itauma couldn't have also done just as neatly, if we're being honest. Great; but hardly 'the greatest".

We are all nostalgic, but we have to be objective too. Comparing Usyk to Ali boxing-wise -Athletes far bigger/stronger in modern era, boxing more globalized -Olympic gold, World Championship gold, World Cup silver vs just Olympic gold -GOAT Cruiserweight career -Moved up to HW and destroyed Joshua 2x, Fury 2x, Dubois 2x as a MUCH smaller man -Won most of his fights on the road in enemy territory vs mostly U.S. for Ali -Undefeated at 38 vs Ali’s multiple losses (Frazier, Norton, Holmes, etc) and gifts (Young, Spinks, etc) Comparing Usyk to Ali outside the ring -Usyk is always respectful, never trash-talks even when disrespected. Ali often taunted opponents, made inflammatory racial remarks, deeply hurt good people like Frazier and hurt their children too. -Usyk is a true family man who never committed adultery or disrespected women, especially his wife. Ali was a serial adulterer, hurt many women. -Ali was a hero to his people, but so is Usyk, who is a hero to not only the Ukrainian army and people, but to all of Western Europe and the entire Free World against Russian tyranny. -Ali was constantly boastful and called himself great. Usyk is never boastful, never calls himself great, instead gives ALL glory to Jesus Christ. As a boxer, as a man, Usyk is as close to perfection as it gets. He is a better ambassador and role model for boxing than Ali could ever be. He’s the kind of guy that young athletes should model themselves afterwards. He’s the epitome of conquering evil with good, and going high when others go low. He is “The Greatest” boxer, but he would never say that of himself. The legend of Oleksandr Usyk is just beginning. His best win is against a guy who lost to an mma fighter with zero pro fights. NO.

Floyd :crying:............ Dang :(

You do know what proof is, dont you Shemp :lol1: Floyd has too much honor and integrity to fix fights and cheat fans and opponents. He is driven by honor and integrity not money even if he openly worships money. You phool.

Floyd and Haymon had Vegas under total control. What do you expect Floyd to confess that he fixed all his fights with the guaranteed Showtime and HBO money to hire all his opponents as subcontracted business employees? And the only ones who refused to be bought off were ducked and or slandered with cheating accusations? You think Floyd and Haymon had too much integrity, honor and respect for the sport and fans to rig every one of his fights in one way or another, to sustain their leverage and value with that phony 0? You can wear your dunce hat proudly. You do know what proof is, dont you Shemp :lol1:

Leonardo DiCaprio is King Of The World, am right ??? Floyd and Haymon had Vegas under total control. What do you expect Floyd to confess that he fixed all his fights with the guaranteed Showtime and HBO money to hire all his opponents as subcontracted business employees? And the only ones who refused to be bought off were ducked and or slandered with cheating accusations? You think Floyd and Haymon had too much integrity, honor and respect for the sport and fans to rig every one of his fights in one way or another, to sustain their leverage and value with that phony 0? You can wear your dunce hat proudly.

When Floyd bragged in the Fight hype interview, "I run Vegas." Leonardo DiCaprio is King Of The World, am right ???

Still no proof Just the babblings of a bitter Pac fan When Floyd bragged in the Fight hype interview, "I run Vegas."

Floyd was a WWF fraud pretender protected by the establishment which needed a black star to sell post Tyson Holy Jones Hopkins. They manufactured and installed their fraud and made sure he never lost. Floyd knew he was protected and mouthed off like the spoiled brat Oscar said he is. Still no proof Just the babblings of a bitter Pac fan

His confession belies his resume Mays resume > Pacs May would still be undefeated if he had that dreck. Now, do you have any proof of boxing being rigged to benefit May or not ??? Floyd was a WWF fraud pretender protected by the establishment which needed a black star to sell post Tyson Holy Jones Hopkins. They manufactured and installed their fraud and made sure he never lost. Floyd knew he was protected and mouthed off like the spoiled brat Oscar said he is.

Floyd admitted he is a rich coward twice on video. Being a coward is what made him rich. All his fights were rigged in one way or another. Only a coward would call himself a coward. His confession belies his resume Mays resume > Pacs May would still be undefeated if he had that dreck. Now, do you have any proof of boxing being rigged to benefit May or not ???

Because Floyd was rigged by the American establishment which needed a black star to sell. He was installed as a franchise after Arum tried to get Floyd slaughtered by Margarito in 2006. Nobody was allowed to beat or hurt fraud pretender franchise. Pac meanwhile had all real fights, lost a few, but never lost value because he was a true superstar not a phony manufactured one. Floyd was a fraud and he would have lost all value and leverage if he lost. That's why Haymon and his accomplices made sure Floyd never lost. Floyd knew he had the security and would never lose, so that's why he would act and talk like a 14 year old child. He never really matured properly. As Oscar said Floyd was a spoiled brat. manny had so many real fights that he waited for Floyd to beat most of their shared opponents first manny would only agree to a Floyd fight after Marcos made him look mortal Floyd 10-2'd that ass anyways real fight manny was psychologically defeated before they stepped in the ring talking about me and Floyd come together after fight to help people on the behalf of god lmao not a single punch thrown yet and was thinking about befriending Floyd you are an anti-American and anti-black troll This is ******. Ali fought everybody that existed in his era. And that list in damn long. he fought everybody relevant from 1960 to 1980. Usyk has fought 3 relevant opponents in heavyweight division.lol it's the other currently active Soviet Russia's Fencer who has the top 3 wins in boxing today Top Soviet Rossiyanin Fencer Bivol has Artur, Prime Saul, and Zurdo Heavyweight greats with deep resumes: Joe Louis, Ali, Holmes, Lennox, Vladimir Klitschko Nope, Usyk is not even close.Vladimir Klitch Usyk might not even be the best of ukraine heavyweight let alone Top Heavyweight Ever

yeah usyk has no chance of surpassing ali lol hes proven to be the top guy in this era which is great, any fights against the past top guys would be extremely hard but then usyk is a hard opponent as well

Heavyweight greats with deep resumes: Joe Louis, Ali, Holmes, Lennox, Vladimir Klitschko Nope, Usyk is not even close.

This is stupid. Ali fought everybody that existed in his era. And that list in damn long. he fought everybody relevant from 1960 to 1980. Usyk has fought 3 relevant opponents in heavyweight division.

Proof or admit you're just a bitter "fight" fan :wave: Pac has top 5 ATWeakest HOF resume Maybe 4 quality W's that have no * and opp wasn't shot. Floyd admitted he is a rich coward twice on video. Being a coward is what made him rich. All his fights were rigged in one way or another. Only a coward would call himself a coward.

Because Floyd was rigged . Proof or admit you're just a bitter "fight" fan :wave: Pac has top 5 ATWeakest HOF resume Maybe 4 quality W's that have no * and opp wasn't shot.

A thread about HWs and some how Floyd gets mentioned in it... How is Usyk the greatest when he’s yet to beat a top 100 all time Fury is MAYBE an all time but only heavyweight People who call Usyk the greatest must understand that he’s competing with guys who beat MULTIPLE all times

Because Floyd was rigged by the American establishment which needed a black star to sell. He was installed as a franchise after Arum tried to get Floyd slaughtered by Margarito in 2006. Nobody was allowed to beat or hurt fraud pretender franchise. Pac meanwhile had all real fights, lost a few, but never lost value because he was a true superstar not a phony manufactured one. Floyd was a fraud and he would have lost all value and leverage if he lost. That's why Haymon and his accomplices made sure Floyd never lost. Floyd knew he had the security and would never lose, so that's why he would act and talk like a 14 year old child. He never really matured properly. As Oscar said Floyd was a spoiled brat. i need an al haymon to guide me to fame and fortune. unfortunately im a bum so ill be guided into a tank davis fight