Gamboa, Postol, Mean Machine, Spence, etc were all undefeated and highly rated when Crawford destroyed them. They weren’t the same after Crawford and other fighters just followed the blueprint.
Many years later Tank took 12 rounds to stop a completely shot Gamboa.
Crawford destroys more undefeated fighters than almost any other champion I’ve seen. People who know boxing know that’s impressive.
Canelo being disingenuous.
His resume is fine, but not elite.
What makes me laugh is how are people still pretending Crawford is as big as Canelo or even Bivol. How many fights did Bivol have at 135, 140, 147, 154?
Canelo is right, there are no elite fighters on Bud's resume. I cant believe Bud said Ricky Burns. Spence, who was damaged goods at the time of the Crawford fight, is probably the biggest name. All the other are B to B+ fighters, not elite.
The funny thing is that Crawford said that Canelo has a good resume but fought when the fighters were on the way down when Crawford actually did the same around the same point of their respective careers. None of the fighters Bud fought did nothing notable afterwards, weak resume.
Hey I learned a new word in this thread today, "daft cunt". Can any Lime-juicers in here tell me what it means?
Daft kunt tends to just mean foolish kunt. Like this “Queensbury” guy, he’s a perfect example lol.
- - What grade they kick U out this year?
I directly responded to it you stupid cunt. If you can't comprehend it then that's a you problem.
I don't give a shit mate.
You implied Gamboa was legitimate at LW for a win over Perez and constantly shut down Dubois' leigitmacy. It's very transparent, I don't know if you're aware. It's not even thinly veiled.
You make a habit of picking and choosing when these kind of things matter. And you're doing exactly that now.
"Well too bad" :lol1: You're not the authority on boxing rankings, you daft clown. People like me who have used The Ring's rankings for decades, before your inbred sibling parents even considered conceiving you are going to continue to do so.
Just because you found out what boxing was yesterday and have this weird obsession with boxrec and rankings doesn't mean anything, again something I don't know if you're aware of.
You are a said, ignorant, angry little man. Sorry your reading comprehension is so low and sorry your repressed sexuality makes you act out like this. All of these posts speak for themselves and you have made nothing approaching a coherent argument.
You are the one ignoring the TBRB, not I. You are the one who doesn't differentiate between the belts and the legitimate world championship, not I. You constantly lash out in anger because your intelligence is so low you can't even understand the posts you reply to.
Hey I learned a new word in this thread today, "daft cunt". Can any Lime-juicers in here tell me what it means?
Foolish kunt
I'm sure you know what kunt means lol
You didn't respond to it at all, you repeatedly missed the point and doubled down on it.
I directly responded to it you stupid cunt. If you can't comprehend it then that's a you problem.
I have never, at any point, considered anyone a legitimate champion just because they had a belt. But I accept the basic reality that the WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO are the ones who decide who holds their world titles, which are not the same thing as a world championship.
If you hold the top belt from one of the alphabet soups, you're a world titlist. I don't always agree, I don't always like it, but that's the way it is.
If you win the TBRB championship, you are the world champion. I don't always agree with them either, but I accept their judgement and consider it a much higher accomplishment.
You can't say Perez doesn't count because he was he was an email titlist and then still pretend Crolla is a world titlist. Same with Bivol. Bivol and Perez got their belts via email, Crolla got his belt by beating Perez. Either all three of them were WBA world titlist or none of them ever were, you can't have it both ways.
Dubois is no different from Perez. They are both world titlists. Neither of them are world champions because they are different accomplishments. There is absolutely no contradiction in my stance. Perez held the top WBA title, Dubois held the top IBF title. Both are world titlists. Neither held the TBRB title, neither are world champions. This isn't complicated.
I don't give a shit mate.
You implied Gamboa was legitimate at LW for a win over Perez and constantly shut down Dubois' leigitmacy. It's very transparent, I don't know if you're aware. It's not even thinly veiled.
You make a habit of picking and choosing when these kind of things matter. And you're doing exactly that now.
"as far as you're concerned he was unranked"
Well, too bad. The TBRB says he was #7 and they're the exact same people who used to run The Ring, which is the basis for your original claim of him being unranked. I'll take a panel of paid, independent boxing journalists over a guy who is oddly obsessed with the sexuality of others on the internet and can't actually read any day.
"Well too bad" :lol1: You're not the authority on boxing rankings, you daft clown. People like me who have used The Ring's rankings for decades, before your inbred sibling parents even considered conceiving you are going to continue to do so.
Just because you found out what boxing was yesterday and have this weird obsession with boxrec and rankings doesn't mean anything, again something I don't know if you're aware of.
Buds best noone great. But doesn't mean he cant. It's just that the more greats you fight the greater you become as you know you need to learn more. So Nel o could be further evolved
Gamboa, Postol, Mean Machine, Spence, etc were all undefeated and highly rated when Crawford destroyed them. They weren’t the same after Crawford and other fighters just followed the blueprint.
Many years later Tank took 12 rounds to stop a completely shot Gamboa.
Crawford destroys more undefeated fighters than almost any other champion I’ve seen. People who know boxing know that’s impressive.
Canelo being disingenuous.
- - What grade they kick U out this year?
Terrence Crawford is not the best fighter, that Canelo Alvarez has fought skill for skill 'Alvarez arguable has fought multiple fighters, skill for skill who were better than Crawford. Floyd Mayweather Junior. And even the version of Shane Mosley may have been better than Crawford at any stage of his career. And then you have fighters like Gennady Golovkin and Dmitry Bivol, who overall skill for skill may not be better fighters than Crawford but? There are aspects of their game that are superior to Terrence Crawford's game i.e. Gennady Golovkin has a better offense, and is most likely many times more durable than Crawford. Also fighters like Erislandy Lara and Miguel Cotto are fighters, who in solid form or at his absolute peak? There are many people who would back them to beat Terrence Crawford'.
Note: So as you can see. Win or lose Canelo Alvarez has a vast amount of experience competing against better fighters than Terrene Crawford or at the very least 'Fighters already with comparable levels of game. And Alvarez has beaten a considerable amount of those fighters, or he has always been competitive even during a lost'.
To conclude: Terrence Crawford's resume is solid 'He has clearly been beating world level fighters. But the issue is? Crawford has been an elite level fighter and Champion throughout his career, that has not competed against other elite level fighters. The only elite level fighter he has fought is Errol Spence Junior, who? At that stage of his career, he was still a World level fighter. But the biggest challenge Spence Junior overcome, was returning from his brutal accident. Errol Spence Junior was most likely suffering from chronic damage below the surface in the latter part of his career. Damage that was only going to show up in a fight against a super elite fighter like Terrence Crawford'.
The best fighters Terrence Crawford has fought 'Have all been miles outside of their peak. Amir Khan, Kell Brook, Errol Spence Junior, and Shawn Porter. They were all still very strong fighters, but? They were there for the taking against a fighter at the level of Terrence Crawford at the absolute peak of his game'.
When Terrence Crawford competes against Canelo Alvarez 'Once again, he is competing against a fighter outside of his peak for sure. But even this version of Alvarez is most likely in the top 2 fighters Crawford has ever fought'.
But that is precisely why Terrene Crawford has taken this fight 'Greatest needs to encounter resistance, in order to prove how great it is. On September 12th 2025, this is that moment for Terrence Crawford when he challenges Canelo Alvarez for the Undisputed Super Middle Weight titles' etc.