Wilder vs Chisora today who wins?

I am right about it, that's why you can't dispute it I wouldn't dare. A good trainer, of course, will find all of the characteristics that a young fighter exhibits, good and bad, and gradually develop a style AROUND those capabilities and liabilities; to exentuate the things that can be useful under the given rules chosen for the challenge, and buffer those aspects that are detractors from success. Bodies and personalities are unique. They very. Mold something custom made for your fighter, Success or failure in the ring is your compass. I apologize for getting snarkey. You're absolutely right about weaker pins and floppy balance as presenting challenges for dealing with pressure, my friend. You don't need an old man like me to tell you that, of course. I do read in bemusment when people (not you) make a laundry list of things Wilder does wrong (did wrong), while ignoring his (past) results; and instead of trying to better understand the concept of "awkward" as applied to boxing (which is complex), they retreat to some diatribe about opposition quality, thowing out the contextual limits associated with that. What I hear, is something like "Pablo Picasso was an unsusessfu painter, obviously, because his depictions of women frequently reduced them to symbols or abstract forms, stripping them of individuality". My only dispute of that, is that Picasso was not unsuccessful, in spite of his style. I beleive that you are a much better versed poster than those people. And I hope you connect.​

Wilder would've ENDED this overrated jellybaby in his prime.

You must be right about all of that, because it came from your head. I am right about it, that's why you can't dispute it

Boxers can have skinny legs - but I'm responding to him as an 'athlete'. He has nothing in his legs. No power, no movement, no footwork, no balance. He's simply not an athlete. He has some serious power, but he can't utilise it when he's on the back foot, because of all the issues with his legs/feet. Falls over himself too much and can't create space. Casuals like you don't notice these things. Just the wild knockouts v no hopers who can't create angles or close gaps. I don't know why you're knocking other peoples opponents, Wilder has never beaten anyone close to any boxer you named in your reply. Not one. Embarrassing post from you. You must be right about all of that, because it came from your head.

Skinny legs? Like Ray Robinson, Thomas Hearns, Bob Foster, Jon Jones? Jeszooos! These casuals and their comments. Fury rolled through him so easily. Brilliant. Earned 3 shots at the real heavyweight title, fighting a legenday draw in one of those; defended his Alpha-Belt more than any of his contemporaries could. I like Wilder. Undefeated until age 34, at 42-0, Always exciting, always showed up in shape, unlike Fury, and never quit on his feet when the going got tough, like the fragile prima donna, Joshua, who got starched on his way to a title shot, which sadly, would always elude him as the losses to underdogs began to mount. Wins over the retired Wladdy, a washed up Pulev and Povetkin, a premature Whyte and Parker, just cannot come up to balancing out Joshua's fails. Wilder simply a better fighter. Anybody can spin a story. Boxers can have skinny legs - but I'm responding to him as an 'athlete'. He has nothing in his legs. No power, no movement, no footwork, no balance. He's simply not an athlete. He has some serious power, but he can't utilise it when he's on the back foot, because of all the issues with his legs/feet. Falls over himself too much and can't create space. Casuals like you don't notice these things. Just the wild knockouts v no hopers who can't create angles or close gaps. I don't know why you're knocking other peoples opponents, Wilder has never beaten anyone close to any boxer you named in your reply. Not one. Embarrassing post from you.

- - Both shot to shyte and only the cruel who love the gruel of a shot fighter ever want to see either.

Wilder isn't very athletic at all. He's got very skinny legs and his balance is awful, especially on the back foot. No inside game. There's a reason he never faced a true pressure fighter and why Fury rolled through him so easily when he pressured him. Duhaupas was probably the closest to a pressure fighter and he gave Wilder HELL. Chisora is limited, but he's everything that Wilder hates. He would walk Deontay down, destroy him on the inside. Wilder needs boxers who give him range, because he simply isn't athletic enough to make his own space or move. Horrible style matchup for Wilder. Skinny legs? Like Ray Robinson, Thomas Hearns, Bob Foster, Jon Jones? Jeszooos! These casuals and their comments. Fury rolled through him so easily. Brilliant. Earned 3 shots at the real heavyweight title, fighting a legenday draw in one of those; defended his Alpha-Belt more than any of his contemporaries could. I like Wilder. Undefeated until age 34, at 42-0, Always exciting, always showed up in shape, unlike Fury, and never quit on his feet when the going got tough, like the fragile prima donna, Joshua, who got starched on his way to a title shot, which sadly, would always elude him as the losses to underdogs began to mount. Wins over the retired Wladdy, a washed up Pulev and Povetkin, a premature Whyte and Parker, just cannot come up to balancing out Joshua's fails. Wilder simply a better fighter. Anybody can spin a story.

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Crazy how over hyped Chisora is has lost over a quarter of his fights and he is nearly at num 50. Wilder beats him every time. Even more crazier is people picking Allen who is just about british level. People like Chisora cause he comes forward like a slugger but they over hype him when he hits air a lot. Wilder isn't the best but he is still more athletic, hits harder and quicker, and actually made it to world champ regardless of what people say about opponents if it was so easy to have 10 defences plenty would have done it. Wilder isn't very athletic at all. He's got very skinny legs and his balance is awful, especially on the back foot. No inside game. There's a reason he never faced a true pressure fighter and why Fury rolled through him so easily when he pressured him. Duhaupas was probably the closest to a pressure fighter and he gave Wilder HELL. Chisora is limited, but he's everything that Wilder hates. He would walk Deontay down, destroy him on the inside. Wilder needs boxers who give him range, because he simply isn't athletic enough to make his own space or move. Horrible style matchup for Wilder.

Now Doeboy. Back in the day when Wilder had his confidence, right hand and his old trainer. Its Wilder. He would lose every round until his right hand connects. Back in his prime his right hand always connects at some point. Ah yes back in the day when wilder lands 1 punch and you are auto-kod. Wonder why people thought that? Could it be crap opposition? 40 year old ortiz? Combo of both? Shame he didn't try agaisnt top opposition. We'll he did and failed but now wilder defenders are saying he was shot so now we are back to fantasy greatness, same as before. Wilder kos everyone...never proves it. Back in the comfort źone

Now Doeboy. Back in the day when Wilder had his confidence, right hand and his old trainer. Its Wilder. He would lose every round until his right hand connects. Back in his prime his right hand always connects at some point.

wilder cant pull the trigger anymore, chisora will just rush him and wilders only chance was to catch him coming in which he dont throw anymore, chisora would stop him these days. hard to win a fight when you dont throw punches

Wilder may have little left after such a long career, but we'll know more about that after next week. If he's regained the trigger; things could get interesting on the old timers circuit. Wilder has once again called out his less durable contemporary, Anthony Joshua, just yesterday. its in the news. I think that Joshua's braintrust has let Wilder cook long enough, now in his 40s, so just maybe we'll get to see them in the same ring together. Careful what you wish for. If he knocks out a bum he's back to himself? Isn't that how he got to be overrated to begin with? Wilder has been knocked out more than Joshua and he hasn't fought the same level of opposition. Less durable? Lmao Wilder avoided the fight constantly thats already been proven so not sure what you are talking about. Wilders braintrust matched him soft for his entire career fighting bums. Joshau was matched tough and you use that to criticize him. Nonsensical

If we are doing an overhyped contest wilder wins everytime. Chisora is just a good solid fighter. People are picking him over Wilder because Wilder was overrated and got completely exposed as far from top level. The perception of Wilder was off, not chisora. In reality they are pretty close its just chisora has a much bigger sample size of fights agaisnt legit opponents. Wilder has a false image based on lots of easy opponents. Yeah Wilder made it to world champ by beating stiverene. That's essentially a bye. 10 title defenses or 10 Wilder defenses? Wilder would get 0 if he fought chisoras level of opponents. Chisora would never waste everyones time trying to hype and market himself with easy opponents. That was disgraceful. The only guy wilder beat thst could beat Chisora was ortiz and that's still a tough fight for both. Chisora Parker 1 and chisora Whyte 1 probably should have gone to chisora and he fought much better competition and did much better for the most part. Wilder may have little left after such a long career, but we'll know more about that after next week. If he's regained the trigger; things could get interesting on the old timers circuit. Wilder has once again called out his less durable contemporary, Anthony Joshua, just yesterday. its in the news. I think that Joshua's braintrust has let Wilder cook long enough, now in his 40s, so just maybe we'll get to see them in the same ring together. Careful what you wish for.

Crazy how over hyped Chisora is has lost over a quarter of his fights and he is nearly at num 50. Wilder beats him every time. Even more crazier is people picking Allen who is just about british level. People like Chisora cause he comes forward like a slugger but they over hype him when he hits air a lot. Wilder isn't the best but he is still more athletic, hits harder and quicker, and actually made it to world champ regardless of what people say about opponents if it was so easy to have 10 defences plenty would have done it. If we are doing an overhyped contest wilder wins everytime. Chisora is just a good solid fighter. People are picking him over Wilder because Wilder was overrated and got completely exposed as far from top level. The perception of Wilder was off, not chisora. In reality they are pretty close its just chisora has a much bigger sample size of fights agaisnt legit opponents. Wilder has a false image based on lots of easy opponents. Yeah Wilder made it to world champ by beating stiverene. That's essentially a bye. 10 title defenses or 10 Wilder defenses? Wilder would get 0 if he fought chisoras level of opponents. Chisora would never waste everyones time trying to hype and market himself with easy opponents. That was disgraceful. The only guy wilder beat thst could beat Chisora was ortiz and that's still a tough fight for both. Chisora Parker 1 and chisora Whyte 1 probably should have gone to chisora and he fought much better competition and did much better for the most part.

Years ago I would have said Wilder, now he gets beaten up.

On current form? Derek Chisora 'But at their absolute peaks, I would have to back Deontay Wilder to win. In a competitive and action packed fight while it lasted'. Derek Chisora will push most heavyweight fighters, if he is able to endure their offense and power 'And still be able to launch his own attacks. Derek Chisora's tactics in most of all his top level fights, has been to tactically develop the action into a battle of attrition. Those are great tactics if? You back yourself at having the superior endurance, brute strength, durability and pressure fighting skills. Derek Chisora's best attributes as a fighter are his endurance, durability, brute strength and pressure fighting skills. In all of those areas he has been one of the strongest heavyweight fighters of his era, with that specific style of fighting'. But Derek Chisora historically throughout his career, has shown that he is not invulnerable to physical attacks even at his absolute peak 'David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was outweighed by 37 pounds vs Derek Chisora. Who weighed in at 247 pounds, when they fought back in 2012. Up until that point in Chisora's career, he had never been decked during a fight or knock out by any of his opponents. His only two loses were against Vitaili Kiltschko and Tyson Fury I & II, all on points over the distance'. Note: David Haye was the first opponent in Derek Chisora's career to meet force vs force and cancel out Chisora's momentum 'Haye blasted out Chisora inside 5 rounds, knocking him out for the first time in his career. Derek Chisora would not be decked or knock out again for another 6 years, during his rematch against Dillian Whyte in 2018'. Since those two loses to David Haye and Dillian Whyte 'Yes Chisora has been beaten, but still? Even miles outside of his peak. No heavyweight fighter has been able to meet force with force and cancel out his moment. If he has been beaten, those fighters have always used classical boxing tactics to nullify his game and accumulative points. Those are precisely the tactics that Oleksander Uysk, Tyson Fury and Joseph Parker have all used to beat him. Out of those three fighters ironically Parker was the most offensively aggressive, which was the correct tactics for him to use because? Parker in my opinion has considerably more punching power than both Usyk and Fury'. But I personally believe that Deontay Wilder at his peak 'Although his brute strength was nothing special, and actually one of his worst attributes. Wilder's power and innate aggression, combined with his physiological dimensions. Stylistically those attributes would have potentially made this fight very difficult challenge for Derek Chisora. Skill for skill Deontay Wilder technically was not a elite level boxer, but he did have a very solid jab. Wilder would be using his jab vs Chisora and just consistently trying to launch his power punches at Chisora'. To conclude: Like I stated at the beginning of this post, on current form 'I think Derek Chisora would beat Deonaty Wilder. Chisora fundamentally is a better boxer than Wilder, and those fundamental skills are what show up in a fighter's style in the latter part of their career. Derek Chisora is a more sophisticated fighter than many people would like to acknowledge. A hallmark trait of this heavyweight era, is that very few fighters have an inside game. Chisora has been one of the few genuine top level heavyweight fighters with an inside game, and this is one of the factors why he has had solid longevity in the game. Many Super Heavyweight fighters in this modern era can box, but very few can really just straight up fight'. I think Deontay Wilder at his peak 'Just had too much power, for Chisora to win a battle of attrition against. I would imagine in a hypothetical match up, Wilder would be busted up badly. But eventually Derek Chisora's momentum would be cancel out by Wilder determination, aggression and power'. Note: I did not vote on the poll etc.

I wouldn't confidently bet $5 on Wilder beating Hughie Fury at this point.

Crazy how over hyped Chisora is has lost over a quarter of his fights and he is nearly at num 50. Wilder beats him every time. Even more crazier is people picking Allen who is just about british level. People like Chisora cause he comes forward like a slugger but they over hype him when he hits air a lot. Wilder isn't the best but he is still more athletic, hits harder and quicker, and actually made it to world champ regardless of what people say about opponents if it was so easy to have 10 defences plenty would have done it.

Wilder can't fight backing up. Most of wilders opponents just backed away and let him get leverage which is purposeful opponent selection by wilder. Chisora might get kod but probably kos Wilder first since his defense and chin were dog sh-it