What if Pacquiao-Mayweather had actually happened around 2009?

We're talking in 2009 when all of this took place, he was a global superstar while Floyd was hiding from not just Pac but Margarito and Paul Williams as well So why are you bringing up Marcos Maidana then?

Why would I give in to the demands of some guy who is just as famous as me if I am Pac and who can't even read? Floyd ducked prime Pac regardless of him beating diminished Pac much later. Face it, Floyd wasn't that great since he fought a pretty even fight with Maidana of all people in their first meeting. Maidana a guy Devon Alexander shutout 10-0 with no trouble at all. You're aware that Manny Pacquaio lost to Jeff Horn?

Floyd wouldn’t just KO Pacquiao in the first round if they fought in 2009, he’d make Manny look like a sparring dummy. Floyd’s skill level is galaxies above, same way Crawford makes his opponents look like weekend trainees.

yeah and they disagreed and Pac backed out of negotiations. Pac requested non standard "random" drug tests when he was guaranteed a 2 week window of no blood test. no other fighter in random testing gets that concession. Pac could have merely agreed to the samd standards of testing every other fighter under goes and then would have had his chance to prove he was better in 2009 but he declined that opportunity Lol. He didn't have to fully concede to a last minute Floyd demand that was based on suspicion no real proof of ped use He agreed to the 14 day cutoff but Floyd was too scared kept moving the goalposts

Obviously Pac would have crushed him but Floyd wanted to use some special testing as a tactic to stall the fight because he wasn't sure he could win. Floyd was scared

Pac's awesome WW+ run :dance: - DEAD La Hoya* (May did it 1st) Hatton (May did it 1st) Cotto Lite* (May did it better) A statue named Clottey A shot caveman named Margacheato* Super Shot Mosley JMM 3x (that last one, doe :lol1: !!!!!!! And May didn't need more than 1 fight) Desert Breeze (3x !!!!) Baby Margarito Almost Bumlevel Lucas Vargas Alcherry* HORN (CPGW, NO REMATCH :lol1: !!!!!!) Basic AF Ugas Cherrios Sometime (FINALLY, a decent opp) The shlt is embarrassing :greddy2: I triple dare you to run off May's list of WW opps :boxing: !!!!! :boxing: !

Obviously Pac would have crushed him but Floyd wanted to use some special testing as a tactic to stall the fight because he wasn't sure he could win. :lol1: @ the bold I'll ask you a question only 5% of NSBers are brave enough to answer (I made a poll and it's hysterical)....... Would YOU ever avoid RANDOM BLOOD TESTS. If "Hell Yes I would" is your answer, why ? Bonus question - How much shlt would you give May if the following words left his mouth; "The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that. These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified." I do not anticipate answer :haha:

Lol. All they needed was one. The initial one. Where all demands were met then Mayweather decided to come back at the 11th hour with some unheard of ost demand. Floyd is his own boss until it's time for accountability. Then it's everybody else's fault. yeah and they disagreed and Pac backed out of negotiations. Pac requested non standard "random" drug tests when he was guaranteed a 2 week window of no blood test. no other fighter in random testing gets that concession. Pac could have merely agreed to the samd standards of testing every other fighter under goes and then would have had his chance to prove he was better in 2009 but he declined that opportunity

You may be right. But Maidana had Floyd all over the place trying not to get hit, and Mosley was a punch away from stopping Floyd. I believe a prime Pac was too fast and too awkward for Floyd. Floyd knew it too. When he spoke about Pac at that point you could see the hesitation clearly. Pac was a different animal even at the end of his prime and Mayweather wanted zero part of him. I like Floyd and he is a great defensive fighter. But during those negotiations when he started bringing up more drug testing he would basically go kn defensive rants about how he had to protect his health. LOL. Manny has never failed a drug test and he got bigger over time, there was zero reason for any of that. Floyd knew there was a good chance he would get stopped. 100%. Manny cant stop JMM hes not stopping the greatest defensive fighter of all time he might have won a close decision based on activity or out working floyd but hes not winning on KO Lets not forget it was Pac/Arum that ended 2009 negotiations, not floyd. Pac wanted 2 week window of no blood draws before the fight, which is non standard for "random" drug testing. Pac/Arum again were the ones who ended another round of negotiations one of the following years because they said an entire stadium had to be built. when they finally fought, they fought at MGM not the stadium and they fought with full normal random drug testing. So when they finally fought it was with atleast 2 conditions that pac previously refused. And when they finally fought Floyd won easily in 1st gear it wasnt even in his top 7 hardest fights. But for some reason people say Floyd would get stopped and he was super scared when he was not the one that backed out of negotiations

1) But Maidana had Floyd all over the place trying not to get hit, and Mosley was a punch away from stopping Floyd. 2) I believe a prime Pac was too fast and too awkward for Floyd. Floyd knew it too. When he spoke about Pac at that point you could see the hesitation clearly. Pac was a different animal even at the end of his prime and Mayweather wanted zero part of him. I like Floyd and he is a great defensive fighter. But during those negotiations when he started bringing up more drug testing he would basically go kn defensive rants about how he had to protect his health. LOL. 3) Manny has never failed a drug test 1) Let's relive those fights :lol1: 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh2NIH9t-AE Maidana scored high on ineffective combos and illegal tactics :haha: 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0iYcbEzo-c May gave him a boxing lesson As for Mosley almost ending May, let's take a look :wave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX7OI7IKm8o "It was at that moment, Mosley knew he fcked up." May went on and dominated the fight immediately after Shane landed that punch. Buckled knees is not the same as a fight ender :lol1: I'll show you what a fight ender is :wave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPmChbMsZQ See the difference :) ? 2) Bruh....Lesser men beat PRIME Pac ! PBF makes easy work of him. That's why Pac refused to roll up his sleeve. Chose to take the fight to a courtroom instead :greddy2: To add to the BS, Pac's boss, Bob wanted to build a new stadium for the event that was never going to happen :lol1: Let me ask you a question you will not answer.... Would YOU have run away from RANDOM BLOOD TESTS ?!?!?! Pac had the "power" to make the fight happen and declined due to cowardice. 3) Neither did Holy :boxing:

He ducked the whole ww division when it was at its peak Pac's awesome WW+ run :dance: - DEAD La Hoya* (May did it 1st) Hatton (May did it 1st) Cotto Lite* (May did it better) A statue named Clottey A shot caveman named Margacheato* Super Shot Mosley JMM 3x (that last one, doe :lol1: !!!!!!! And May didn't need more than 1 fight) Desert Breeze (3x !!!!) Baby Margarito Almost Bumlevel Lucas Vargas Alcherry* HORN (CPGW, NO REMATCH :lol1: !!!!!!) Basic AF Ugas Cherrios Sometime (FINALLY, a decent opp) The shlt is embarrassing :greddy2: I triple dare you to run off May's list of WW opps :boxing: !!!!!

He ducked the whole ww division when it was at its peak Pac's awesome WW+ run :banana: - DEAD La Hoya* (May did it 1st) Hatton (May did it 1st) Cotto Lite* (May did it better) A statue named Clottey A shot caveman named Margacheato* Super Shot Mosley JMM 3x (that last one, doe :lol1: !!!!!!!) Desert Breeze 3x !!!! Baby Margarito Almost Bumlevel Lucas Vargas Alcherry* HORN (CPGW) :lol1: !!!!!! Basic AF Ugas Cherrios Sometime (FINALLY, a decent opp) :haha: The shlt is embarrassing :greddy2: I triple dare you to run off May's list of WW opps :boxing: !!!!!

I know I probably get lumped into the 'hater' category but if he'd fought Cotto rather than 'retire' after the Hatton fight I probably would have become a fan. He ducked the whole ww division when it was at its peak

The one where Floyd gets popped for ped masking agents What the fck does that even mean :haha: ?!?!?!?! You either did or didn't vote We both know the answer :lol1:

Floyd was always the superior of the 2. Pac started at 108 after all, no shame in losing to an all time talent in Mayweather. guys without a big weight advantage who could beat Floyd Henry and Roberto. OTHER TOP 10 ALL TIMES Top Swarmers would bring it to Floyd and exploit his so and so power

Floyd was always the superior of the 2. Pac started at 108 after all, no shame in losing to an all time talent in Mayweather.

You may be right. But Maidana had Floyd all over the place trying not to get hit, and Mosley was a punch away from stopping Floyd. I believe a prime Pac was too fast and too awkward for Floyd. Floyd knew it too. When he spoke about Pac at that point you could see the hesitation clearly. Pac was a different animal even at the end of his prime and Mayweather wanted zero part of him. I like Floyd and he is a great defensive fighter. But during those negotiations when he started bringing up more drug testing he would basically go kn defensive rants about how he had to protect his health. LOL. Manny has never failed a drug test and he got bigger over time, there was zero reason for any of that. Floyd knew there was a good chance he would get stopped. 100%. exaggerations Shane couldn't knock Floyd down despite buckling his knees As for manny his power and finishing ability was alright but far from Buff Guy Artur Beterbiev 10/10 finisher Juan, whose chin and defense are nowhere near Floyd, survived after being knocked down 3 times in the round by manny

You know how many iterations of negotiations they did At one point in time Arum was saying they needed to wait for an entire stadium to be built only for them to eventually just fight at the MGM like all the big fights were Floyd isn't getting knocked out that is cope. It's possible he gets out worked and loses a close decision. Floyd ain't getting hit like cotton and skeleton Oscar did. You may be right. But Maidana had Floyd all over the place trying not to get hit, and Mosley was a punch away from stopping Floyd. I believe a prime Pac was too fast and too awkward for Floyd. Floyd knew it too. When he spoke about Pac at that point you could see the hesitation clearly. Pac was a different animal even at the end of his prime and Mayweather wanted zero part of him. I like Floyd and he is a great defensive fighter. But during those negotiations when he started bringing up more drug testing he would basically go kn defensive rants about how he had to protect his health. LOL. Manny has never failed a drug test and he got bigger over time, there was zero reason for any of that. Floyd knew there was a good chance he would get stopped. 100%.

After that I realized this guy was faking the funk. It was a whole division of welterweights calling him out and he only heard lightweight Marquez. A guy who had to jump up two divisions and still got welched on the catchweight agreement. I know I probably get lumped into the 'hater' category but if he'd fought Cotto rather than 'retire' after the Hatton fight I probably would have become a fan.

Did you vote in that blood test thread: The one where Floyd gets popped for ped masking agents