I really liked Loma as a fighter, really hated his fanbase.

Sure but why would he really have to fight all the young up and comers when most of them haven't even fought each other? I'm talking more speficially Tank and Shakur. They are the 2 biggest names that would have given him that stand out cv win if he did win.

I mean last year and now he still could have. Sure but why would he really have to fight all the young up and comers when most of them haven't even fought each other?

I don't have issues with him not fighting Tank and Shakur at that stage of his career. Kind of asking a lot considering he already fought Lopez and Haney. I mean last year and now he still could have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWXGRtaetOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFVoOLSticA The moment people's mind short circuit when they trash on Loma and have to apply the same standards to their favourite fighter.​

Exactly this. Great fighter. But constant 396-1 promo and getting big fights early did wonders for him that a part of his stan fan base thought he can do no wrong regardless of how many losses he ended up having. Part of his stan fan base even give him more credit than Usyk. Usyk is what a lot of Loma fans think Loma is. Only difference is Usyk actually cleared up his division, fought everyone went up and did the same. Loma did not. He has been inactive of his own accord he could have fought Tank could have fought Shakur last year or even now. Never won Haney and Teo. Rigo he beat a fighter basically 2 divisions below him. He doesn't have the same ambition. No world champion who claims i have no motivation and holds belt hostage should be given extra credit. I don't have issues with him not fighting Tank and Shakur at that stage of his career. Kind of asking a lot considering he already fought Lopez and Haney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWXGRtaetOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFVoOLSticA The moment people's mind short circuit when they trash on Loma and have to apply the same standards to their favourite fighter.

I am fairly certain the larger proportion of people who buy major PPVs do not have forum accounts or engage in social media flame wars. . I agree its only after they join that they get triggered and start attacking the source of the discomfort lol

a section of one fighters fanbase attacks a fighter u like triggering that person into disliking and actively attacking that fanbase and fighter, its a common boxing thing as far as i can see A common internet boxing thing. I am fairly certain the larger proportion of people who buy major PPVs do not have forum accounts or engage in social media flame wars. That's the preserve of an outspoken minority of angry male losers who live vicariously through others. A loser like Century Tuna, for example, probably genuinely believes he personally is more successful than Manny Pacquiao because he supports Terence Crawford vociferously on the internet.

a section of one fighters fanbase attacks a fighter u like triggering that person into disliking and actively attacking that fanbase and fighter, its a common boxing thing as far as i can see It is common, no doubt, absolutely. You can hate a fighter because of his fans, absolutely, you're right. I never understood it, but you're right, absolutely.

True. I never understood this hating on a fighter because of his fanbase thing. It always sounds shallow to me. Can't imagine casuals saying such thing. (Maybe because they don't spend too much time arguing on the internet, if at all.) a section of one fighters fanbase attacks a fighter u like triggering that person into disliking and actively attacking that fanbase and fighter, its a common boxing thing as far as i can see

That's usually a sign you're spending too much time on the internet more than anything else. True. I never understood this hating on a fighter because of his fanbase thing. It always sounds shallow to me. Can't imagine casuals saying such thing. (Maybe because they don't spend too much time arguing on the internet, if at all.)

Guys who always wanted to pity him for chosing to move up in weight, hype his amatuer record (which doesn't matter in the pros) and say none of his losses should have been losses. Always put me off. He was a good fighter, fan friendly and tested himself. That was good enough for me. Exactly this. Great fighter. But constant 396-1 promo and getting big fights early did wonders for him that a part of his stan fan base thought he can do no wrong regardless of how many losses he ended up having. Part of his stan fan base even give him more credit than Usyk. Usyk is what a lot of Loma fans think Loma is. Only difference is Usyk actually cleared up his division, fought everyone went up and did the same. Loma did not. He has been inactive of his own accord he could have fought Tank could have fought Shakur last year or even now. Never won Haney and Teo. Rigo he beat a fighter basically 2 divisions below him. He doesn't have the same ambition. No world champion who claims i have no motivation and holds belt hostage should be given extra credit.

The establishment bias against Easter Europeans . is this something to do with easter eggs?

Guys who always wanted to pity him for chosing to move up in weight, hype his amatuer record (which doesn't matter in the pros) and say none of his losses should have been losses. Always put me off. He was a good fighter, fan friendly and tested himself. That was good enough for me. Goes for pretty much every fighter/athlete/politician/celebrity. That being written, most the fanbases aren't that bad either, you just notice the handful that are part of the fanbase that are annoying. Most Loma fans are just normal people and boxing fans. Same as anyone else.

That's usually a sign you're spending too much time on the internet more than anything else. Haha truth. Coming to this board, especially as a younger lad, you need to get ready. Down some energy drinks and get ready to rage and flex your fingers on the keyboard. I took a nice break from the forum at some point. I think I went months, if not a year of no posting just because of how busy I was and I think I was going through a boxing rut of not interested in a lot of the matchups unless they were really good matchups. Nowadays as I'm back on and a tad older, the arguments are less anger and mostly roll eyes and move on. Most of the anger arguments are old battles that just don't go away which in some ways is telling. It means, nobody changed anyone else's mind from years ago where those same argument existed.

That's usually a sign you're spending too much time on the internet more than anything else.

Definitely one of the greatest and most original champions we ever saw. The establishment bias against Easter Europeans stifled his career like it did Golovkin. Loma had more dimensions than Roy, Pacquiao, Leonard, Duran and Hopkins combined. Loma was a creative artist fighter. Too bad we didn't get to see him ten count Tank which he would have done brutally.

Goes for damn near for a lot of fanbase fanboys in here Definitely.

Goes for damn near for a lot of fanbase fanboys in here

He lost to Teo. Salido was a mess of a fight and Haney I had a draw.