Fury accused Usyk of being a “little steroid man” when he moved up to HW and beat Joshua. People say Pacquiao took steroids because he moved up and kept his power and stamina, his head got bigger, etc but the same can be said of Usyk.
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Usyk and his team have always denied the allegations. What do you think?
Yet AJ was able to match Ngannou in the clinch who is a 270lb UFC champion, but Usyks few sambo lessons made all the difference.
He's suss, I know people don't like it, he is.
Wrong. AJ was able to land multiple right crosses to the face of Ngannou, who was also instructed not to do any wrestling or he'd get penalized. They tied up ONE time, and Ngannou got double underhooks and stood AJ up and they both waited for the ref to separate. AJ absolutely did not "match Ngannou in the clinch". He allowed Ngannou to get a superior position and stood there doing fugh-all. You're manufacturing stuff because you have a bias against the champ. This is a factually false line in every aspect.
No, it's a legitimate point. Your mistake is in thinking that you need to be built like Mr. Olympia in order to exhibit the signs of PED use. It's far more subtle than that and I can tell you that when someone does exhibit the signs, they are on them, guaranteed. Those who don't, like Usyk, could still be on them, it's just less likely, which is why it's worth pointing out in a thread surrounding this very question. It's not proof he's clean but it does bolster the argument.
Those "Fat slobs" were so out of shape that they tried steroids to try to get into shape but never got all the way there. All the steroids in the world can't make Tony Galento Buster Mathis or Butterbean look like Holyfield.
He's surely clean and the test results prove it. Fury is jealous of Usyk's greatness and prowess so he makes allegations. Fraudweather did the same to Pacquiao and lost the defamation lawsuit and had to pay him millions in damages.
Fury accused Usyk of being a “little steroid man” when he moved up to HW and beat Joshua. People say Pacquiao buys dianabol tablets because he moved up and kept his power and stamina, his head got bigger, etc but the same can be said of Usyk.
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Usyk and his team have always denied the allegations. What do you think?
I see no reason to think that Usyk is on steroids and use dianabol pills for sale. Yes, he got bigger when he moved up to heavyweight, but that's natural for a boxer who trains and gains weight for a new division. I always look at the facts, not rumors – there was no evidence, only speculation and accusations that have been made against many athletes.
its basically imposslbe to be in the top 30 in say cycling without using peds yet all these guys are "passing" the tests. its safe to assume most high level pro athetes are on PEDs.
what percentage of PED users fail a test? it cant be 100 or nobody would bother using it. and every guy who fails most people will believe it wasnt their first time so they were passing before
its probably only 1-5 percent that even fail. If they didnt have a high degree of confidence they would pass the test they just wouldnt do it. remember in boxing they get paid the same that fight win or lose. if it was a 50 percent chance they fail a ped test and the fight gets cancelled they would be better off taking no PEDs and just losing collecting the check
When defendants say they've never been arrested before...BFD
usually means they just haven't been caught.
Still....a person is only guilty when they are caught.
Testing has to catch up to any short cut a user knows of.
Just like DNA is solving a bunch of cases that would otherwise go unsolved.
I'm not a fan of making assumptions unless the actions of said fighter is sketchy AF.
The fact that fighters are getting busted is a good sign for those who hate roids.
IMHO, roids are not the problem
I'm still waiting on a roider to seriously injure their opp.
Hate to say it but that's the only logical reason to ban roids.
people need to stop with this "looks" like a steroid user.
all kinds of athletes use anabolics. women use them. skinny cyclists and the like use them.
Further James Toney and Tyson Fury tested positive for them and both look like fat slobs as far as athletes are concerned while someone like tim bradley is passing his ped tests.
No, it's a legitimate point. Your mistake is in thinking that you need to be built like Mr. Olympia in order to exhibit the signs of PED use. It's far more subtle than that and I can tell you that when someone does exhibit the signs, they are on them, guaranteed. Those who don't, like Usyk, could still be on them, it's just less likely, which is why it's worth pointing out in a thread surrounding this very question. It's not proof he's clean but it does bolster the argument.
Unlike Fury who threw around the accusations while being a confirmed drug cheat himself, nothing about Uysk suggests he is on any PEDs. We can’t just accuse everyone who goes up divisions and does well of being cheats, especially based on some brainless throwaway comment from an unreliable source like Fury.
Test results be damned
Their guesswork > Scientific results
its basically imposslbe to be in the top 30 in say cycling without using peds yet all these guys are "passing" the tests. its safe to assume most high level pro athetes are on PEDs.
what percentage of PED users fail a test? it cant be 100 or nobody would bother using it. and every guy who fails most people will believe it wasnt their first time so they were passing before
its probably only 1-5 percent that even fail. If they didnt have a high degree of confidence they would pass the test they just wouldnt do it. remember in boxing they get paid the same that fight win or lose. if it was a 50 percent chance they fail a ped test and the fight gets cancelled they would be better off taking no PEDs and just losing collecting the check
Aside from being well drug tested, Usyk doesn't even have the look of a steroid user. He looks totally natural. He's just a cruiserweight who added 20 pounds. It didn't happen overnight either because in the Chisora fight he still looked like a cruiserweight.
Also don't forget that cruiserweight to heavyweight isn't quite as big of a jump as it used to be because cruiserweight used to be 190lbs back when Holyfield made the transition.
people need to stop with this "looks" like a steroid user.
all kinds of athletes use anabolics. women use them. skinny cyclists and the like use them.
Further James Toney and Tyson Fury tested positive for them and both look like fat slobs as far as athletes are concerned while someone like tim bradley is passing his ped tests.
Its probably harder to knock a ped head out
The Olamepics are trying to get in on the boxing craze :boxing:....
"There isn't any Olympic sport that currently allows the use of steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). The use of PEDs is strictly prohibited in the Olympic Games and other major sporting competitions governed by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
However, there is a proposed multi-sport event called the Enhanced Games that intends to allow athletes to use performance-enhancing substances, including steroids, without facing penalties."
That's because he's technical in the clinch and they're not. Go to a wrestling, BJJ, or combat sambo gym and ask to go one round with their smallest fighter and see how it goes for you. When you've got advantageous positions (foot, head, body), etc and you know how to use leverage properly, etc, it functions as a strength multiplier.
A great example from the same gym is Loma vs Nakatani. Look at how he chooses whether to accept the clinch, and how he puts his bodyweight vs the biceps, etc. He's clearly a smaller, weaker man, but look at how he dominates the clinch. Most boxers do not spend much time on the technical aspects of clinch fighting. Those that do will have a huge advantage over those that don't. All Fury and AJ tend to do in the clinch is just try to lie on their opponents and make them support the weight. But you don't have to let them do that.
As for stamina, that's something you train. I'm in my 40's and I can still go 15+ rounds with the youngsters at my gym and outwork them, because I train for it.
Yet AJ was able to match Ngannou in the clinch who is a 270lb UFC champion, but Usyks few sambo lessons made all the difference.
He's suss, I know people don't like it, he is.
He's as physically strong as men 30-40lbs bigger than him, see pushing AJ and fury around in the clinch.
Usyk is incredibly sketchy but he's also incredibly popular so people don't ask questions.
That's because he's technical in the clinch and they're not. Go to a wrestling, BJJ, or combat sambo gym and ask to go one round with their smallest fighter and see how it goes for you. When you've got advantageous positions (foot, head, body), etc and you know how to use leverage properly, etc, it functions as a strength multiplier.
A great example from the same gym is Loma vs Nakatani. Look at how he chooses whether to accept the clinch, and how he puts his bodyweight vs the biceps, etc. He's clearly a smaller, weaker man, but look at how he dominates the clinch. Most boxers do not spend much time on the technical aspects of clinch fighting. Those that do will have a huge advantage over those that don't. All Fury and AJ tend to do in the clinch is just try to lie on their opponents and make them support the weight. But you don't have to let them do that.
As for stamina, that's something you train. I'm in my 40's and I can still go 15+ rounds with the youngsters at my gym and outwork them, because I train for it.
Who cares ?, it's 2025 all top tier athletes are on some type of PEDs IMHO they just fall into 2 categories those that get caught and those that don't.Does not change their accomplishments PEDs are not some miracle drug the athlete still puts in the work .