How would a fight between Usyk and Wilder have went?

The Wilder hype was the most bizarre thing that boxing has ever seen. He was ridiculously overrated. It all started when he flattened fat ass, lazy, immobile Stiverne. After that everyone was looking for the great American hype job. Fury outboxed him easily as did the unheralded Cuban (until his lazy, slow, plodding ass got KO'd) and others. Even Szpilka was outmaneuvering him until he got sloppy and gassed. Usyk won't gas out. Wilder will. Deontay would be bamboozled in the ring against an awkward swarmer with a high work rate and better stamina than his own.

Prime Wilder, Wilder by KO R9, the Clone Wilder that lost to Parker and Zhang, Usyk by KO R4. Nash out - His Majesty

this guy was getting outboxed by Fury the Fairy it was only a "draw" because the handlers saw money in a rematch after Fury almost got one shotted in the final round Usyk is a better finesse fighter than Fury! Usyk as well schooled a boxer as Bivol | Deontay the most fundamentally flawed fighter Score cards are submitted every round so that score cards can't be manipulated post match. I think either consciously or subconsciously the judges favored Wilder in any round that looked fairly close so we got that lame decision. There is no possible way to decide to score the fight even off of the last round unless you had it a Fury win by 2 points, Concerning the original premise Wilder could have won similar to his Ortiz win in the 2nd fight but most likely not. The version of Wilder post Helenius would lose a wide decision or get stopped in a similar manner to Dubois if Usyk decided to put the foot down on the gas pedal.

Haymon and Finkel's plan was build up Wilder to a fancy fake record, then challenge Fury. They calculated Fury was shot. Beat Fury and then dodge Usyk, AJ, Whyte, Chisora for ten years and just keep fighting more PBC bums. If Wilder had beaten Fury, he was never going to fight AJ or Usyk or anybody Haymon didn't control. He would have priced himself out of everything, demanded 80-20 vs AJ, 90-10 vs Usyk and just keep on KOing more PBC bums for as long as the public paid for it.

To all of you nuthugging dickriding Usyk fans who are selling a prime Deontay Wilder short against Oleksandr Usyk. Save that same energy and let us hear ya'll spew the same shit following the Usyk/Dubois 2 fight. Once Triple D spanked that ass. Wilder couldn't win a round vs. Usyk, ever, any version of this bird legged bum who was awful the start, middle to now the end of his fraud career. Any fighter who turns down over $100,000,000 to fight AJ is not just a fraud coward bum, he's even worse. Laughable how these Wilder backers actually believe he was anything better than Seth Mitchell. He was Setih Mitchell with better protection.

Cmon now, nobody is arguing that Wilder was Ali 2.0, but to write that Wilder now was the same as he was 8 years back or so is disingenuous. You dont have to like him, you can feel he was protected and over rated. But he was clearly a different fighter back then. Ignoring that makes it hard to take your opinions as not being overly biased. Wilder was never nothing but a bird legged right hand swinger who was only matched with other PBC employees. Everything was in house until they took the risk w Fury and that ended in failure. Wilder as an American could have picked anyone he wanted - Klitschko, Usyk, Povetkin, Whyte, Chisora, AJ - and he would have got anyone. But Haymon and Finkel knew Wilder was nothing and waited till they calculated Fury was shot. But even a shot Fury handled Wilder like he was nothing three times. Wilder is so bad, his puppetmasters turned down over $100,000,000 to fight AJ LOL. You got rope a doped my a fraud, pal.

To all of you nuthugging dickriding Usyk fans who are selling a prime Deontay Wilder short against Oleksandr Usyk. Save that same energy and let us hear ya'll spew the same shit following the Usyk/Dubois 2 fight. Once Triple D spanked that ass.

All of you who are selling a prime Deontay Wilder short against Oleksandr Usyk. Save that same energy and let us hear ya'll spew that same shit after the Usyk/Dubois 2 fight. Once Triple D spanks that ass.

There's no difference in Wilder now to whatever you think his prime was. He's never been nothing nut a two bit fraud pretender bum who build his phony name by beating Al Haymon's PBC hired patsies. He never stood a chance vs Usyk, AJ, Whyte, Povetkin and that's why those fights never happened. They thought they could take out fatso Fury but that idea failed miserably. Wilder belonged in WWF, he's Seth Mitchell with better protection. Cmon now, nobody is arguing that Wilder was Ali 2.0, but to write that Wilder now was the same as he was 8 years back or so is disingenuous. You dont have to like him, you can feel he was protected and over rated. But he was clearly a different fighter back then. Ignoring that makes it hard to take your opinions as not being overly biased.

There's no difference in Wilder now to whatever you think his prime was. He's never been nothing nut a two bit fraud pretender bum who build his phony name by beating Al Haymon's PBC hired patsies. He never stood a chance vs Usyk, AJ, Whyte, Povetkin and that's why those fights never happened. They thought they could take out fatso Fury but that idea failed miserably. Wilder belonged in WWF, he's Seth Mitchell with better protection. You can believe what you will but a prime Deontay Wilder would have been a threat to any heavyweight current or past; Including Oleksandr Usyk. Back then he had that equalizer. Which was his lethal right hand. Not today's version of Deontay Wilder though. Todays version of Wilder is just a broken and ruined fighter; Who should stay retired.

Usyk gets rid of Wilder in 4 rounds.

Today's Wilder wouldn't stand a chance. The Deontay Wilder of eight years ago would have knocked Usyk spark out. There's no difference in Wilder now to whatever you think his prime was. He's never been nothing nut a two bit fraud pretender bum who build his phony name by beating Al Haymon's PBC hired patsies. He never stood a chance vs Usyk, AJ, Whyte, Povetkin and that's why those fights never happened. They thought they could take out fatso Fury but that idea failed miserably. Wilder belonged in WWF, he's Seth Mitchell with better protection.

Easy KO for Usyk. Usyk beats that no talent fraud pretender with one arm tied behind his back. Easy work.

Why mention Wilder in the same sentence as Usyk is what I wanna know The Wilder fans will all say he could of , would of when in all reality , he wouldn’t do chit Live with it

Yes it would end by ko. With wilder flat on his back looking up at the lights

i think daggum has the answer Wilder only has to land 1 punch and usyk is ko'd. Over 12 rounds wilder is bound to land 1 punch. In other words usyk has 0 chance

99% Usyk easy win, 1% Wilder detonation on his chin for KO I think Wilder's one-dimensional style would betray him. Yes, if he could just land that one big shot, he'd likely KO Usyk. The question is, would Usyk lose focus enough to let him land it? Probably not.

99% Usyk easy win, 1% Wilder detonation on his chin for KO

Wilder has a few things going against him in this discussion. First, he is currently is the decline stage at the end of his career, so its easy to pile on and act as if the fighter he has been over the last few years is the fighter he has always been- and that its only now that he has truly been exposed. Happens all the time. Secondly, this is a boxing fan site- so you will have so many experts here who favor boxers that win with skill and technique- because you are all so well versed in skill and technique you favor it to great extents and sometimes ignore other aspects. That being written, Wilder when at his best was more than just a great right hand. He also had amazing range and solid athleticism- which he used to his advantage. At his best Wilder would scurry back out of range from fighters before they could hit him when he didnt want to engage. And since his range was greater than his opponents, it gave him an advantage. He would back off and keep the distance where he wanted it to be, forcing you to go through his right hand at range (keep in mind, this was younger Wilder). This was why Fury was such a problem for him- Fury's range was greater than Wilders. Now, thats not to write I'd favor Wilder over Usyk. Usyk is an all time great, who was able to catch a lot of bigger fighters (though I think a younger Fury may have done better than the one we saw). I would still favor Usyk over Wilder, but certainly not to the extent of a whitewash 10 times out if 10. I would give Wilder a 20-30% chance of landing a bomb on Usyk and putting him down for the count. However, i think the fights themselves wouldnt be too exciting. Mostly Wilder on the backfoot waiting for that one punch, and Usyk cautiously closing in and scoring now and then. Today's Wilder wouldn't stand a chance. The Deontay Wilder of eight years ago would have knocked Usyk spark out.

i think daggum has the answer Oh! You are referring to that all things Deontay Wilder expert right? :lol1: