Joe Joyce or Wilder who was greater?

Wilder vs Joyce would be a nice battle of the washed up fighters. Make it happen!

When you lay it out Joyce clearly has the better wins, but it still somehow feels kind of instinctively wrong putting him ahead of Wilder. I guess its because Wilder held onto a belt for years even though of course there was a fair bit of smoke and mirrors involved in that. Joyce was never in the discussion for being "the guy" in the division whereas Deontay was in the running for a while.

I think history might say wilder, even if Joyce has better wins

If I've told you this once. Then I've told you a thousand times. Your weird obsession and fixation with Deontay Wilder is both creepy and scary! It's sending out homo vibes! Hard bro!

If I've told you this once. Then I've told you a thousand times. Your weird obsession and fixation with Deontay Wilder is both creepy and scary! It's sending out homo vibes!

No one gives a fück but Joshua pissed his pants at the thought of facing either in their prime...IMHO. 100 million offer to wilder and wilder said no. That's a wilder duck. You got it backwards. Joshua avoided joyce now? Don't think that fight was ever close but if you have actual evidence let's see it. You don't seem like an evidence person based on your post though. More of a feelings kind of person. You feel like Joshua ducked wilder even though the exact opposite happened with factual evidence and proof yet you feel like joshua was scared because you hsve an already formed opinion which was based on wilders now debunked lies.

No one gives a fück but Joshua pissed his pants at the thought of facing either in their prime...IMHO.